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henson0115 said:
true, but for those people who stuck on an aio or put it in a loop. i personally run my fan at around 3k rpm. i have no issues with that noise level. were headphones anyway.
actually heat has never been as issue for me on 56. maybe i got lucky
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at 1800/1150 I guarantee you heat will be an issue :) Partly because the only way you are getting there is throwing vega 64 voltages at it :( still massive fun to fiddle with though.
 
henson0115 said:
i get 1750 with around 1060/1080. its really not. but yes i agree its good fun :)
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I think me and you have a very different idea of what is acceptable volume wise from the card which is absolutely fine. if I go mad the sky is almost the limit and I hope you agree that the limit on these cards is almost entirely thermal as with the right powerplay tables etc you can make the power draw completely outrageous, we are talking 400+ W outrageous :D:cool:.
 
Vince said:
I think me and you have a very different idea of what is acceptable volume wise from the card which is absolutely fine. if I go mad the sky is almost the limit and I hope you agree that the limit on these cards is almost entirely thermal as with the right powerplay tables etc you can make the power draw completely outrageous, we are talking 400+ W outrageous :D:cool:.
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oh yea definitely, pretty sure ive mentioned multiple times the reason theres no big difference between a 56 and 64 at stock (5% tops) is due to thermals because amd overvolted them to begin with.
 
I remember running some stupid power through my old v56 that thought it was a 64 via various powerplay and other mods.
Vega 56 can really shift when it gets up past 1650 / 1700 + on the core and 1100+ on the HBM as long as the undervolting and temps were kept under control... its not slow and would give the v64 and 1080 a quick slap.
 
Stephanie Peterson said:
I remember running some stupid power through my old v56 that thought it was a 64 via various powerplay and other mods.
Vega 56 can really shift when it gets up past 1650 / 1700 + on the core and 1100+ on the HBM as long as the undervolting and temps were kept under control... its not slow and would give the v64 and 1080 a quick slap.
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glad im not the only one.. :) although i never tried the powerplay tables.
 
henson0115 said:
glad im not the only one.. :) although i never tried the powerplay tables.
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That's because if you mod a 56 it becomes a 64, so obviously there is no difference that's how i have crossfire 64 and 56 together, the 56 is on a 64 bios making them identical...... I don't get your reasoning, that is not a stock 56, a stock 56 is a 56 which no way performs like a 64 at all, the voltage is lower not allowing more than 940mhz on the hbm, the core will not go past 1600 under load because the 56 bios has a lower voltage pushing through the card
 
Vince said:
the limit on these cards is almost entirely thermal as with the right powerplay tables etc you can make the power draw completely outrageous, we are talking 400+ W outrageous :D:cool:.
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That's just the way it is with the HBM being on the die/interposer/whatever, It was something we saw limit the Fury pro when compared to the AIO Fury X's, especially after AMD did the bio's update for the X. I'm not 100% sure but at the time it seemed like people who where flashing the Fury Pro's ended up with faster stock cards that did not overclock as well as those that weren't flashed, I'm sure there were exceptions but at the time it was why I decided to not flash mine.
 
Illuminist said:
That's because if you mod a 56 it becomes a 64, so obviously there is no difference that's how i have crossfire 64 and 56 together, the 56 is on a 64 bios making them identical...... I don't get your reasoning, that is not a stock 56, a stock 56 is a 56 which no way performs like a 64 at all, the voltage is lower not allowing more than 940mhz on the hbm, the core will not go past 1600 under load because the 56 bios has a lower voltage pushing through the card
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yes i know all this. again im talking stock. see previous link i sent, they are within 5 fps apart. they both throttle at stock (56 less due to lower volts to start with hence more room to breath)...... hence the performance being roughly the same. not sure how you dont get it to be fair. just because the 64 has higher hbm and highr core doesnt mean its faster, because it cannot achieve the speeds at stock to begin with due to thermals and voltage.
 
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