RAM options for Ryzen 3rd gen on X370

orbitalwalsh · 20 Jul 2019 at 08:17

michty_me said:
I believe I was one of those people you recommended it too .
My MP510 is currently sitting gathering dust. I think I got the 960Gb for £118 and also a 2TB MX500 for £180ish.
Now I've got my RAM its time to make a decision on CPU and Mobo. Must resist.

Do it do it do it

tamzzy said:
must. wait.
#failing

Do it

tamzzy · 20 Jul 2019 at 08:18

@orbitalwalsh have you done it?

orbitalwalsh · 20 Jul 2019 at 08:25

tamzzy said:
@orbitalwalsh have you done it?

Done it as , assembled the extremely heavy IKEA desk and locked away the gorgeous dynamic case in a cupboard box with no ventilation... Not yet

Even if I get an ITX.. it has to go in there.. sad times ahead

tamzzy · 20 Jul 2019 at 08:30

orbitalwalsh said:
no ventilation...

ouch.

final build specs?
pics?
pfft

michty_me · 20 Jul 2019 at 08:38

**Currently browsing OCUK store for parts**

orbitalwalsh · 20 Jul 2019 at 08:46

tamzzy said:
ouch.

final build specs?
pics?
pfft

Haha, feeling pressured now to buy an Xtreme and 16 core !

orbitalwalsh · 20 Jul 2019 at 09:16

michty_me said:
**Currently browsing OCUK store for parts**

Browse deep and true !

The. Double check others for pricing

michty_me · 20 Jul 2019 at 09:26

orbitalwalsh said:
Browse deep and true !
The. Double check others for pricing

I always do! I think I'm still going to wait to see about these MAX boards that are rumoured.

tamzzy · 20 Jul 2019 at 10:03

orbitalwalsh said:
Haha, feeling pressured now to buy an Xtreme and 16 core !

orbitalwalsh said:
Do it do it do it

orbitalwalsh said:
Do it

orbitalwalsh · 20 Jul 2019 at 10:08

michty_me said:
I always do! I think I'm still going to wait to see about these MAX boards that are rumoured.

MAX?

@tamzzy
Shhhh

tamzzy · 20 Jul 2019 at 10:10

orbitalwalsh said:
MAX?

it's the new msi b450 boards with the 32mb eeprom instead of the 16mb eeprom they cheaped out on.

hominid · 20 Jul 2019 at 18:14

@tamzzy My BLS8G4D32AESBK 32GB kit turned up today, up and running @3400 on second boot no issues. What have you got your running at if you've had the time to play?

I did try 3600MHz but it didn't boot so I just put it back to 3400MHz, also 3200MHz @ CL15 didn't boot either. I want to try for 3600 again, I'll be happy for that, but I think I will either have to slacken some timings or up the voltage which is a bit odd on my motherboard(GB x370 G5).

tamzzy · 20 Jul 2019 at 18:33

hominid said:
My BLS8G4D32AESBK 32GB kit turned up today, up and running @3400 on second boot no issues. What have you got your running at if you've had the time to play?

mine is sat on the desk currently. i've only bought the ram as prices are likely to go up when it's time to upgrade. so can't really say how it'll do

hominid said:
I did try 3600MHz but it didn't boot so I just put it back to 3400MHz, also 3200MHz @ CL15 didn't boot either. I want to try for 3600 again, I'll be happy for that, but I think I will either have to slacken some timings or up the voltage which is a bit odd on my motherboard(GB x370 G5).

you'll probably need to bump voltages up a tad.

Overclocking characteristics are:

Apparently no CB/CBB

Scales with voltage

Very temperature sensitive

At least the low bins seem to need high tRCD

A couple of different r/overclocking users have reported 3600 14-20-16 1.45V on AMD using the 3000 15-16-16 sticks. This is really interesting because it suggests a reasonable amount of variation if the lower-end sticks need tRCD 20 for 3600 whereas higher-end sticks can do 3600+ at tRCD 18.

https://community.hwbot.org/topic/189330-8gbit-micron-reve-e-die-thread/

michty_me · 20 Jul 2019 at 19:20

hominid said:
@tamzzy My BLS8G4D32AESBK 32GB kit turned up today, up and running @3400 on second boot no issues. What have you got your running at if you've had the time to play?

I did try 3600MHz but it didn't boot so I just put it back to 3400MHz, also 3200MHz @ CL15 didn't boot either. I want to try for 3600 again, I'll be happy for that, but I think I will either have to slacken some timings or up the voltage which is a bit odd on my motherboard(GB x370 G5).

I've read a comment on another forum stating that this person has theirs running 3600mhz with stock timings of CL16 and voltage at 1.35V.

I don't know if that is too high a voltage or what. I've never tweaked RAM in my life.

tamzzy · 20 Jul 2019 at 19:25

michty_me said:
I've read a comment on another forum stating that this person has theirs running 3600mhz with stock timings of CL16 and voltage at 1.35V.

1.35v is stock voltage. overclocking is very variable. YMMV.

1.45v is a safe soft-max voltage. 1.5v is the max - but i suggest not to go anywhere near that, at least not for daily usage.
can try 1.38v, then 1.4v and see what you get. for daily use, i'd probably stick closer to 1.4v than 1.45v tbh.

michty_me · 20 Jul 2019 at 19:38

tamzzy said:
1.35v is stock voltage. overclocking is very variable. YMMV.

1.45v is a safe soft-max voltage. 1.5v is the max - but i suggest not to go anywhere near that, at least not for daily usage.
can try 1.38v, then 1.4v and see what you get. for daily use, i'd probably stick closer to 1.4v than 1.45v tbh.

Nice!! Thanks for the tips. I'll keep it in mind!!

tamzzy · 20 Jul 2019 at 19:44

michty_me said:
Nice!! Thanks for the tips. I'll keep it in mind!!

also want to bump up the soc voltage too...aids with stability. max is 1.1v

hominid · 20 Jul 2019 at 19:47

I did get it to 3600 but with 1.4V and 1.1V SoC, I also had to loosen some of the timings so all in all it wasn't worth it. It also produced errors in Testmem5 so I think it was on the limit, both the ram and my abilities to tweak, so I wound it back down to 3466 @ CL15 17 17 54 - that'll be enough for me.

I think for dual ranked RAM it's not a bad result considering it's on a X370 with a 1700 non X, so the IMC isn't the best, I'll take another look when I upgrade the processor to something newer cheers!

tamzzy · 20 Jul 2019 at 19:56

for 1st gen ryzen and dual rank 32gb ram, 3466c15 is a win!

michty_me · 20 Jul 2019 at 19:57

tamzzy said:
also want to bump up the soc voltage too...aids with stability. max is 1.1v

I've a lot to learn.

hominid said:
I did get it to 3600 but with 1.4V and 1.1V SoC, I also had to loosen some of the timings so all in all it wasn't worth it. It also produced errors in Testmem5 so I think it was on the limit, both the ram and my abilities to tweak, so I wound it back down to 3466 @ CL15 17 17 54 - that'll be enough for me.

I think for dual ranked RAM it's not a bad result considering it's on a X370 with a 1700 non X, so the IMC isn't the best, I'll take another look when I upgrade the processor to something newer cheers!

Ah, the person I noted the settings from was on a 3600 chip. Good going for a 1700.