I use to work with two chaps who ate all through working hours, subways/McDonalds/Burger Kings for lunch, too but as far as their families were concerned they followed it religiously.
they are just cheating themselves.. it is said that all the good deeds we do (praying, charity etc) can all be for the show but fasting is one thing that you cant really "show" and is solely for Allah (the Almighty Sky Wizard

)
The way I see it is if there is a creator (God) then why would anyone want to worship a supreme being that could have prevented such atrocities in history, yet stood by and watched from afar while people begged for God to save them yet did nothing to protect them from suffering.
Please don't throw me that free will bull****.
in case you didnt get the Memo, this thread is about RAMADAN.. not "Allah/God is great please all convert into Islam/Muslims" where your post would maybe have a valid place..
Regarding the post: if God was to intervene, then you would probably still moan and say He isnt letting us choose.. We are too far gone into lust and desires to do the right thing.. A rapist isnt a rapist until he does the "deed".. just before he is about to do it, he has a CHOICE of doing it or not doing it.. If God was to intervene then what is the point? Might as well send us all to heaven/hell because He knows exactly what we will do but if He did do that, you would be moaning too as He didn't give you a chance to prove yourself..
If that's the case, why follow any times at all and just do it when you feel it's right?
That's pretty much what they are doing. Better yet, why doesn't everyone follow the timings for Mecca?
They are making it up as they go along, so why doesn't everyone else?
Good luck to everyone enduring starving season.
And why does everyone feel the need to talk about Christmas in a defensive posture to justify other Religous beliefs? Politically correct dingbats.
you do realise EXCEPTIONAL cases cannot be used for normal cases.. for example, a dr might treat people differently on a plane when he cant find supplies using diy stuff etc etc but he wont do the same in his surgery?
Islam allows us eating non-halal (at the risk of starting another debate) IF we cannot find a HALAL food.. but then we cannot use this in normal situations!
Fasting/Praying is about TIMING of where you live.. if it was sunset in Mecca doesnt mean it is in your local area so why would you suddenly start eating?
Is ramadan good for you if you pregnant?
If there is a danger to your child then you shouldn't fast. If you have something "wrong" (ill, cant fast, old, child etc etc) with you then you dont have to fast but if you still do it is permissable.
I couldn't give a hoot about Ramadan or religion in general but I have to thank it this time round.
Working with a colleague in SA week after next, and he is wanting a seperate hotel room because of it (as he doesn't want to wake me up in the middle of the night, which is kind of him), awesome
dont let the sun or daily mail hear about it. or they will have the headline:
"Muslim extremist uses taxpayer to get a separate room as he didnt want to share it with a non-muslim" (etc etc)>.
An illusion created to oppress the masses by man thousands of years ago and unfortunately it is still debilitating people's minds in the 21st century.
yeah 21st Century cuz without religion there wouldnt be violence, rape, child pornography, molestation etc etc..
You're not that thick.
The reason he gave is that gluttony was said to be the worst sin a man can commit. I personally would say there are worse things. Would you not disagree that killing people or abusing children is worse than eating a few extra potatoes?
have you looked at the state of people around you? obesity is reaching epidemic levels.. people are gorging on fast food, then they are getting ill etc etc.. if you eat less (even less than when you feel satiated) then you will be healthy...
Maybe the US/UK didnt get that memo (re: killing & abusing).. try telling that to Afghani/Iraqi civilians.. do you not remember what the soldiers did to them? the civilians were abused.. and do you think that doesnt happen still? You would be fool to think so..
And no wonder why they are retaliating.. there are two sides to each story.. for you they are killer, for them YOU (UK/US etc) are the killer..
Also just because something is said to be worst sin, doesnt mean there arent other worst sins.. for example overeating might be a sin but there is no penalty (in Islam) for it.. where as Murder etc does.. so what does that tell you?
Paedophilia? If we're going to judge a 7th century figure on 21st century standards feel free to give your family history. Sure it won't take long to find the paedophiles in your ancestry.
We dont have to go that far back.. paedophilia/child pornography is rife in this very 21st Century where some poeple say religion has no place..