Ramadan Mubarak
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Sorry to dive in and "answer my own question" but I got curious and went to google
I didn't realise that the shape of the Earth was defined so literally in the Qu'ran? (...I haven't read it personally). Given that the Qu'ran is considered to be the literal interpretation of the word of Allah (correct?),
The Quran is the word of allah directly which was sent down to the prophet muhammad (pbuh).
That would be celebrating Christmas, not respecting your Christian Brethren as people of the book.
As a muslim, you shouldn't say Merry Christmas because this is a form of admitting that the celebration is correct and permitted when it is not as a muslim and a follower of Islam. A muslim would not give well wishes to something which is haram and wrong in his own religion so why would he wish them a merry christmas, it is wrong.
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and a Jolly New Year ^^^ fair enough
Thanks.
The trouble with Islam, unlike most Christian denominations, is that they have no central clergy or doctrine and for every Imam there can be a different interpretation of Scripture and while most are quite normal, there are some which can be a bit out there......like most things I suppose.
Really, looking at life expectancy countries that have high mulims populations dont seem to do that better than say USA or European countries.
I give up something for lent, normally something I enjoy that is a vice, Alcohol/Sweets/Chocolate, I don't see how not drinking WATER during the day in the summer months is beneficial to your health, like I said before certain jobs you would be risking doing the job safely and correctly.
That is your interpretation, not all Muslims or Islamic thought agrees with that however.
The Qu'ran itself it is only the celebration of or the worshipping of other religions that is forbidden, it offers a tacit tolerance, if not acceptance of disbelievers own religions and so respecting their beliefs by wishing them well in their celebrations is not necessarily forbidden:
I understand that many Muslims believe the way you do and that is fine, however it is an interpretation, nothing more.
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fair enough but
Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.
does not mean to say you just be saying merry christmas to them on the day of their celebration even though they are celebrating for the wrong thing and reasons in the eyes of Islam. You should not be well wishing that which is wrong.
However the Qu'ran also teaches that you should show respect to Christians and therefore wishing them well during their time of piety is simply following the Qu'ran.
Like I said it is all about interpretation.
I don't wish to derail the thread on comparative interpretation of the Qu'ran, so while I understand your point of view and how you derive it, it is not necessarily followed or accepted by all Muslims.
Ramadan Mubarak
Can't you just say it to be polite tho? Does it matter if you say, 'Merry Christmas'? All it means is, have a nice Christmas, as in, have a nice religious holiday, it doesn't mean, 'All worship to God' or anything.
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They could say it, its not like they are going to hell.
Quite an interesting response though, the popular opinion that muslims would not say merry christmas, I wouldnt say ramadan mubarek to muslims I know, but they wouldnt expect me to, just as I wouldnt expect them to say merry xmas to me, I wasnt really sure on the etiquette. I have some good chats with my local shopkeeper Mohammed, so I shall bring this and see what he thinks of it too.
We have many good discussions on religion and every day things, he's my goto guy for asian related matters.
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You are mistaken. Every thread is a "post a funny picture" thread. It's written in the T&C's
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Funny, my local shop owner is Muslim, not only does he wish his customers Merry Christmas he sells Santa Hats, Xmas cards and tinsel too.
Guess the interpretation of Islam changes when there's money involved.
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My local shop owner wont sell alcohol, he could do a roaring trade as there is nothing within a few miles.
I like that he wont compromise his principles, he works harder than anyone I know, 6am to 8pm although he often has a crafty sleep behind his counter.
I like that he wont compromise his principles, he works harder than anyone I know, 6am to 8pm although he often has a crafty sleep behind his counter.
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All due respect, if you want to have a chin wag with someone about religion then have one with someone with knowledge on rulings (Imam) not the local shopkeeper who "probably" sells alcohol, cigarettes and top shelf magazines
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All due respect, if you want to have a chin wag with someone about religion then have one with someone with knowledge on rulings (Imam) not the local shopkeeper who "probably" sells alcohol, cigarettes and top shelf magazines
He doesnt sell any of that, as I said he's quite principled, which I really respect him for, he wont sell any of the things you mentioned, despite the fact he could do extremely well from them.