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Raptor Lake refresh for sure ?

I agree but the point that your comment is missing is that Bencher didn't believe that my overclocked 13700k is using on average playing through CP2077 ~120W and maximum (according to HWInfo64) around ~150w.
The reason your power draw is at 120 to 150 is cause you have HT off,, and that's also why your CPU is maxed out. For example, my 12900k with HT Off, look at that power draw, while I also push much higher framerate mind you

 
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I know, but there are certain locations that may draw a little bit more than that, I think. Let's test it and see if you do or don't. I can't say for sure, but I can say that when using this particular combination of settings, resolution and area tested my 7950X and 7950X3D drawed more wattage than they normallly would in this game.

1080P - Ultra RT Preset
DLSS Q
FG OFF
Crowd Density High

Use this save file, place it in the relevant folder (can't remember where save games are stored lol) and then copy the path I follow in the video below.

Video was recorded on a stock 7950X3D.

Here's my 7950X running a similar (but not identical path) and drawing 150W+
Sadly I used a 7900XTX that time and not a 4090, but other than slightly lower GPU FPS I don't think the result changes too much.


Upload your own recording from that area, showing average FPS, 1% lows and CPU power draw etc.
Your 3d chip beats my 13900k at that area. The non 3d ties the 12900k roundabout. Just for reference.
 
I've improved my tune since I did that video tbf too tbf.
I find is weird that, while you are in that heavy area, you are around 10-15 fps higher than my 13900k, but the moment you crossed those street cones (0:49 of your video) my 13900k got higher fps. Overall it's a very impressive result cause man, I was preaching it but people weren't listening, amd CPUS sucked in games with RT. The zen 4 3d apparently fixed that. Good. Very good.
 
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I find is weird that, while you are in that heavy area, you are around 10-15 fps higher than my 13900k, but the moment you crossed those street cones (0:49 of your video) my 13900k got higher fps. Overall it's a very impressive result cause man, I was preaching it but people weren't listening, amd CPUS sucked in games with RT. The zen 4 3d apparently fixed that. Good. Very good.

We just need graphics cards faster enough to properly implement ray tracing now. Chop chop, graphics card makers.
 
The reason your power draw is at 120 to 150 is cause you have HT off,, and that's also why your CPU is maxed out. For example, my 12900k with HT Off, look at that power draw, while I also push much higher framerate mind you

Yes, I already told you that at the very beginning but you still said you found it unbelievable without asking any other further questions. Now it seems like you're looking for excuses why you weren't wrong.

You push much higher FPS without HT or much higher FPS than me? If it's the latter then you having a newer generation GPU will account for that.

What resolution is your video at?

In my gaming I haven't come across an instance where turning HT off is not better, especially in the Frame Time metric, so games are much smoother. You might want to test this yourself though I'm surprised you haven't done this already with the amount of times I've seen it mentioned.

As to running the saved games that Matt kindly posted, it is at 1080p when more strain can be put on the CPU so of course it should use more power than running at 1440p which I normally game at. So it is a bit like you asking me to run Prime95 or Cinebench and say "look how much power it uses", when I don't spend time normally running either of them.

Also a 13700k is the same as the 12900k with 8P and 8E cores but it can run more efficiently and also at the same time faster than a 12900k. So whatever low watts you've got your 12900k at you could get a 13700k to do exactly the same but yet give you more performance.
 
Yes, I already told you that at the very beginning but you still said you found it unbelievable without asking any other further questions. Now it seems like you're looking for excuses why you weren't wrong.

You push much higher FPS without HT or much higher FPS than me? If it's the latter then you having a newer generation GPU will account for that.

What resolution is your video at?

In my gaming I haven't come across an instance where turning HT off is not better, especially in the Frame Time metric, so games are much smoother. You might want to test this yourself though I'm surprised you haven't done this already with the amount of times I've seen it mentioned.

As to running the saved games that Matt kindly posted, it is at 1080p when more strain can be put on the CPU so of course it should use more power than running at 1440p which I normally game at. So it is a bit like you asking me to run Prime95 or Cinebench and say "look how much power it uses", when I don't spend time normally running either of them.

Also a 13700k is the same as the 12900k with 8P and 8E cores but it can run more efficiently and also at the same time faster than a 12900k. So whatever low watts you've got your 12900k at you could get a 13700k to do exactly the same but yet give you more performance.
Well it's kinda obvious to me that when I'm talking about power draw I'm talking about a complete cpu bound scenario. There is no point comparing power draws when we are running at completely different framerates, it doesn't lead anywhere.

If I gpu bottlenecked my 13900k obviously it wouldn't draw 150+ watts but instead 100. That doesn't change the point though, cause the 12900k would also drop to 50 watts. The difference in power draw between these two is massive in gaming.
 
Well it's kinda obvious to me that when I'm talking about power draw I'm talking about a complete cpu bound scenario. There is no point comparing power draws when we are running at completely different framerates, it doesn't lead anywhere.

If I gpu bottlenecked my 13900k obviously it wouldn't draw 150+ watts but instead 100. That doesn't change the point though, cause the 12900k would also drop to 50 watts. The difference in power draw between these two is massive in gaming.
What resolution was your video at?
 
Cyberpunk does draw a lot of CPU wattage if you use the right settings and test in the right area. I was not a believer but @Dave2150 and @Bencher showed me the way. Not gonna lie, it sends a shiver down my spine saying that Lol :cry:.

I've had my 7950X3D drawing over 90W in that particular area which is higher than most other games tbh

My 13900k has spikes over 220w in cyberpunk in some areas. Highest I've seen on my 7950X3D is 91W I believe.

Still feels weird seeing 60-80W in most games on the 7950X3D. Using an Intel CPU to play games is just throwing money away at this point, AMD is hugely more efficient.

I do use my 13900k for work, browsing, media, as it does idle at lower power usage than my 7950X3D. That's the only area Intel shines in, hopefully Zen5 can lower idle/low load power consumption.
 
My 13900k has spikes over 220w in cyberpunk in some areas. Highest I've seen on my 7950X3D is 91W I believe.

Still feels weird seeing 60-80W in most games on the 7950X3D. Using an Intel CPU to play games is just throwing money away at this point, AMD is hugely more efficient.

I do use my 13900k for work, browsing, media, as it does idle at lower power usage than my 7950X3D. That's the only area Intel shines in, hopefully Zen5 can lower idle/low load power consumption.
The 12900k is also at the 80-90w range so it's not all Intel that draw absurd amounts for games.
 
Lol, no it doesn't


It spiked to 82 watts :D

Why do you lie? I know I shouldn't respond to trolls, though posting for others to know how wrong you are.

My 13900k (with Strix 4090 @ 70/% PL 350W)
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Another user's 13900k in similar area

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145-175w is the consistent power draw of a 13900k with 4090 in Cyberpunk, with 4K RT enabled, all ultra. Spikes to 220W do happen, though are not consistent.

My 7950X3D draws 60-70W in the same game.
 
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