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RDNA 3 rumours Q3/4 2022

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TNA said:
Too funny seeing their price after you went on the way you did a couple of days ago. But yea, still way too expensive due to our crappy pound. These will be £1000-£1100. They can keep it. Let’s see what’s on offer in the £500-£600 range next year.
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Yeah, I am surprised they went so cheap, but we still haven't got concrete data on performance yet.

That's when and where I will be looking. I think AMD may have given mid-range buyers who aren't too fussy about RT etc some good options.
 
Hotwired said:
Gamers Nexus did a rush video where they read off the AMD slides where it said FSR and 8K Widescreen and then moaned about it being deceptive despite them literally reading it off the screen in the titles and regular sized lettering on the bars not small print.

Gotta make an attempt to make drama for clicks.
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And I thought it was just me. Thanks for posting this. Because I stop watching after a few minutes of him moaning.
 
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gpuerrilla said:
Lol. Give Jensen all them sales with your 3080FE, 3070FE, 3080Ti :cry: pull the other one.
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I gave Jensen £649 for the 3080 FE and £469 or whatever the 3070 FE price was. Maths must not be your strong suit as that equals £1118. The 3080 Ti I got for £575 and was used so money did not go to Jensen. The guy actually decided to keep his 6900 XT as I recall.

Remind me, how much did you give Jensen? Oh yea, £1399 :cry: :cry: :cry:
 
And now the real question: Someone here said the 4080 will be half the size of full ADA, let's assume 4070 will be 40% or so, etc.
RDNA3 is also half the size of full ADA.
But that is not the question, the question is how much better will 4080 or 4070 be compared with RDNA3? How much better will 4080/4070 be compared with the 3090 in RT?
So if we don't count the 4090 and those willing to pay the premium, is there a better Nvidia alternative to 7900xtx/7900xt?
4080 will probably be 60% of the 4090 @ $1199.On a lower bus. 3080 was 80% of the 3090 at a higher bus than the 4080. So the 4080 vs 4090 is more like a 3070 vs a 3090.
We'll have to wait and see how good the lower Ada cards are, including in RT workloads.
 
Darujhistan said:
Yeah, I am surprised they went so cheap, but we still haven't got concrete data on performance yet.

That's when and where I will be looking. I think AMD may have given mid-range buyers who aren't too fussy about RT etc some good options.
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The thing is I feel the 7900s are both out of my price range. Not because I can't afford them but because I just will not pay £1k+ for a ******* GPU. Even a 7800XT at £850 (inc taxes) might make me think nah and anything lower is not likely to be much of an improvement over my 3080 FE.

Though at least now I am not looking at Nvidia's joke £1k for a 4080 badge on a 4060 GPU. That thing was barely faster than a 3080.

In the meantime I am enjoying The Last of us part II on PS5 that cost me £450.
 


Hmm, I don't use upscalers but they are claim 2x over FSR 2.X. Which is slower then FSR 1.0. 2x the performance is pretty large improvement in frame rates. If that turns out to be true that will lower temps and clock rates considerably at 2k, for example.
 
nvidiamd said:
And now the real question: Someone here said the 4080 will be half the size of full ADA, let's assume 4070 will be 40% or so, etc.
RDNA3 is also half the size of full ADA.
But that is not the question, the question is how much better will 4080 or 4070 be compared with RDNA3? How much better will 4080/4070 be compared with the 3090 in RT?
So if we don't count the 4090 and those willing to pay the premium, is there a better Nvidia alternative to 7900xtx/7900xt?
4080 will probably be 60% of the 4090 @ $1199.On a lower bus. 3080 was 80% of the 3090 at a higher bus than the 4080. So the 4080 vs 4090 is more like a 3070 vs a 3090.
We'll have to wait and see how good the lower Ada cards are, including in RT workloads.
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Don't lose sight of the fact that RDNA 3 has the memory controllers and the cache on a chiplet and the quoted die size is the GPU only. 4080 die size includes the cache and the memory controllers.

If the AMD marketing and Nvidia marketing are to be believed, I expect 7900XTX (and possibly the 7900XT) to beat 4080 16GB in raster and lose in RT. So for $200 - $300 less you get more VRAM, better raster but slower RT. If this is accurate then I would take the cheaper AMD GPU that gave me better raster.
 
Darujhistan said:
Yeah, I am surprised they went so cheap, but we still haven't got concrete data on performance yet.

That's when and where I will be looking. I think AMD may have given mid-range buyers who aren't too fussy about RT etc some good options.
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£1250 isnt a good option !
 
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Hmm, I don't use upscalers but they are claim 2x over FSR 2.X. Which is slower then FSR 1.0. 2x the performance is pretty large improvement in frame rates. If that turns out to be true that will lower temps and clock rates considerably at 2k, for example.
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AMD wasn't as clear as they can be but FSR3 is like DLSS 3, it generates and injects fake frames in the game to make the GPU create twice as many frames. But we know how doing this significantly increases latency so we need to see if AMD have a solution for high latency (better than Nvidias, otherwise like DLSS3, FSR3 would not be worth using for most people especially since using fake frames breaks frame limiters)
 
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nvidiamd said:
So if we don't count the 4090 and those willing to pay the premium, is there a better Nvidia alternative to 7900xtx/7900xt?
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Not likely. It looks like a repeat of RDNA 2 vs Ampere to me, where Nvidia forces you into severe compromises for its feature set (below the top card) or more $. It's only the 4090 which looks like a good deal overall, perversely enough at $1600+. Obviously they only want to offer value higher up the price goes, but for mass market they just charge what they feel like & hope brand recognition will get the sale anyway.
 
Poneros said:
6900 XT was 58% of the performance of a 3090 in CP2077 4K+RT Ultra. The 7900 XTX will be 48% of the performance of a 4090. That's before we factor in DLSS which is superior both simple & with frame generation, before we think about the heavier modes already in the game (psycho) and on their way (overdrive), and before we settings tweak which will increase the gap further because Nvidia can scale even better in RT with a little knowledge.

Yes, the 7900 XTX is clearly cheaper but actually it's worse value, because it has half the performance! More importantly if you look at absolute numbers instead of relative, the 7900 XTX will still be firmly <30 fps which is NUTS! And it has way more deficiencies than that but honestly, who cares, this is just a poor showing from AMD overall. No way anyone buying a $1000+ GPU in 2022 is ignoring RT so their raster numbers vs $ won't save them, at best it puts them at parity with 4090 for $/fps but without any of the features.

Honestly even Vega was a better GPU vs Pascal than this is vs its competition.
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You forgot to include the Nvidia price hike for the privilege , 3080 £650 to 4080 16gb £1269 , let's ignore what they wanted for the gimped 12gb one

7900 series has the same MSRP as 6900 while increasing performance doesn't look like regression to me actually looks decent uplift, I would imagine the lower stack will also stay the same yet increasing performance rather have this instead of hiking up the prices

Which might make Nvidia rethink pricing so will give some credit to AMD

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These perf numbers from AMD are all useless since at least some of them are using FSR and even FSR perf setting is unknown. At most you can extrapolate from the 1.5-1.7 perf increase over the 6900, but the all the FPS numbers from the event can't be trusted ). Not to mention the "Up to" thing. What the hell is up to? The biggest number you will see if you run the game long enough? :)
 
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