RDNA 3 rumours Q3/4 2022

[Quartz]

In the real world

I say! You're not allowed to be sensible here!

 

[arknor]

If these cards with fsr can hit 4k60 with Rt , are they a failure?

whos paying over 1k for 60fps, is everyone selling their high refresh monitors or something.


Sounds like a step backwords

 

[Rup]

Seriously tempted to get the XTX and put it in my 2nd PC.
I know with my sig card this is getting stupidly expensive but I'm saving £6k a year in commuting costs (including income tax hit) so that's my justification

 

[ICDP]

Actually youd be wrong. There are games that actually look better with DLSS thanks to TAA being blurry as heck. Cod black ops for example, native rendering was absolute crap.

You proved my point with this comment. The fact you consider the utterly blurry and crap TAA “native”, is what Nvidia want you to do.

 

[srekal34]

If these cards with fsr can hit 4k60 with Rt , are they a failure?

Edit: bearing in mind most gamers with 4K panels won’t have high end, high refresh rates / are probably using a tv

I dont think anyone can honestly say they are a failure. They are just totally different proposition than 4xxx. Focused on raster and HRR. Its not a bad thing. For people with 1440p wanting 240Hz its probably even better proposition than 4090, regardless of price.

This doesnt mean they are not a slight disappointment. After 2 years of design AMD will now have wider gap to Nv in RT. They have also been massively overhyped by youtubers and twitter leakers.

 

[glenimp617]

Seriously tempted to get the XTX and put it in my 2nd PC.
I know with my sig card this is getting stupidly expensive but I'm saving £6k a year in commuting costs (including income tax hit) so that's my justification

Nobody needs to justify anything mate, you buy what you want

 

[tereu5]

I hope that AMD is doing catchup every release (with the money gap widening) and performance gap gets smaller and smaller. Like with intel Zen1 was ok....Zen2 better than 3 came and 4 now (end with 3dcache) so cards for me look good enough especially that they cost 50% almost less...lets see those benchmarks and if they be 40% less than 4090 it will be a great choice...no need for PSU to change, no faf with the connector etc

 

[tereu5]

Nobody needs to justify anything mate, you buy what you want

exactly times when you will be punished for byuing what you want/can afford are gone this forusm is full of crazy setups

 

[Stanners]

Buy what you can afford. Ignore a lot of posters on here as there are all sorts of agendas in play, never feel the need to justify anything.

 

[Murphy]

For anyone wanting to catch up LTT done a good job of summarising things, at least IMO.

 

[Grim5]

@Jimmy Weirdarms I think it’s largely because we are on an enthusiast forum, so if they aren’t physically winning in performance then they have lost… from what they showed the 4090 will still be the performance King.

In the real world they potentially have a much better proposition here than Nvidia, and I think it will force Nvidia to re-evaluate their pricing strategy for the mid range.

I’m curious about the low clocks, especially given the abundance of rumours about high clock speeds. Perhaps when the power budget goes out the window with 3rd party AIB cards there’s some decent headroom for pushing those clocks up… perhaps had AMD done it themselves it wouldn’t have fit with their efficiency and performance per watt narrative.

As always we’ll have to wait for the cards to come out and see how they compare. Not quite the slam dunk I was hoping for personally, but I’m always in need of as much performance as I can get and not the typical use case… I think I’ll be holding off until Jan or feb next year and see how everything settles out. Particularly interested in whether AMD has managed to close the gap a bit on VR performance where they’ve historically been weaker than in traditional gaming.

It's bizarre man

Go back a few months and every amd leaker on YouTube was claiming around 120 CUs and 3.5ghz clocks leading to nearly 150% to 200% more performance than 6950xt and then what we got was 50% to 70% more performance. It's Poor Volta levels of BS that leakers fed people for months and months and it's already starting again - AdoredTV claiming RDNA4 will be more than double RDNA3 performance and beat Nvidia in RT

 

[Troezar]

I dont think anyone can honestly say they are a failure. They are just totally different proposition than 4xxx. Focused on raster and HRR. Its not a bad thing. For people with 1440p wanting 240Hz its probably even better proposition than 4090, regardless of price.

This doesnt mean they are not a slight disappointment. After 2 years of design AMD will now have wider gap to Nv in RT. They have also been massively overhyped by youtubers and twitter leakers.

Exactly. 1440p is only just hitting the mainstream, that's where all the sales are. Of course the wealthy, performance people will be disappointed but the other 99.99% won't care.
I wonder if future iterations will include an RT chiplet? Could that work? This approach seems a lot more flexible than Nvidia's current one. AMD seem to be in the sell more, with higher margin business whilst keeping it affordable, I think it will do well for them.

 

[Besty]

It’s all theoretical until we get some real side by side comparisons but *if* AMD have reached 3090(ish) levels of RT and raster somewhere near nvidia’s latest (within 20%, say), at 60% of nvidia’s price and 75% of the power draw, then surely that’s all the better for everyone?

Don't let rationale get in the way of a good old moan.

'muh VR
'muh Miles Morales Ultra Settings
'muh DLSS 3.0

The bar has been set for the XTX, approx 1.7x over a reference 6950XT, I think the price of the 7900XTX has anchored it to the raw RT performance of a 3090ti.

 

[montymint]

whos paying over 1k for 60fps, is everyone selling their high refresh monitors or something.


Sounds like a step backwords

looks at all the 3090 early adopters

 

[Toasty]

All these leakers were assuming AMD weren’t doing an Ampere and thinking 6950xt - 7900xtx it was going from 5k to 12k shaders and they were the same as before, they are not.

$999 sounds ok on the face of it assuming it’s 3090 RT and maybe 40% raster but in the UK I can imagine it’s around £1200 so at that point just try and get 4090FE.

 

[srekal34]

It's Poor Volta levels of BS that leakers fed people for months and months and it's already starting again - AdoredTV claiming RDNA4 will be more than double RDNA3 performance and beat Nvidia in RT

Be careful, you will soon be called Nvidia troll by certain individuals here for calling this BS out!

 

[varkanoid]

Seriously tempted to get the XTX and put it in my 2nd PC.
I know with my sig card this is getting stupidly expensive but I'm saving £6k a year in commuting costs (including income tax hit) so that's my justification

Think that needs some kind of explanation

 

[Bencher]

You proved my point with this comment. The fact you consider the utterly blurry and crap TAA “native”, is what Nvidia want you to do.

It is native. And i dont really care what you or nvidia wants me to think. Games have built in taa and dlss is an improvement over that. Period. Everything else is fanboy drivel and i want no part in it

 

[ICDP]

Buy what you can afford. Ignore a lot of posters on here as there are all sorts of agendas in play, never feel the need to justify anything.

I would say buy what you want at the price you are happy with.

Until these 7900x prices were revealed my only upgrade path was the 4080 16GB and I was going to have to pay £1200 plus to get it.

Both the 7900 cards are a lot faster than a 3090Ti in raster and about on par for RT. As you go down the stack it means that those of us on 3080 or 6800 have an upgrade path for the same inflation adjusted price.

Nvidia’s plans for a £1200+ 4070 (aka the 4080 16GB) have just been sank.

 

[BigBANGtheory]

Ooooooh... massive price increase... just because your wages haven't tracked with exchange rates and inflation... are NOT the problems of these companies - they are the problems of your governments and beyond. Get your head on straight and look at the wider world.

Margins have gone up too dude, the profit scraped off the product... that is exploitation driving that element its not simply to pay for the increased cost of manufacture, R&D etc that is money banked for the business and its shareholders.