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RDNA 3 rumours Q3/4 2022
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What AMD should do though is release a 4080 12gb equivalent for £500 and a 4080 16gb for £700 then even if they don't beat a 4090 they will still win the generation as it'll destroy nvidia sales of the 80 class and all the old ampere nvidia still wants to get shot off.
Considering your post states you were hoping for a 4090 instead of AMD offerings, were you hoping to hear something from AMD to hope Nvidia to reduce their prices?
I rather AMD stays quiet and hopefully have a stronger product then current NVidia offerings.
My reason for this, as AMD way to giving the middle finger to those that just want AMD to be competitive so people can buy Nvidia for cheaper.
nah, let AMD release their products after and have a strong offering after the fact.
People that were wanting a 4090 will get a 4090 one way or another, they won't open their purse for AMD and AMD knows this, not like AMD is losing out considering they basically have consoles on lockdown.
We don't have to, well we don't know AMDs performance or pricing, but this is the more then likely scenario.
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...and that is exactly what will cause me not to buy N31 RDNA3, if they are going to hide in the shadows of Nvidia's market share and antics whilst creaming off an equally obnoxious margin that is not something I'm going to wait for, makes it an easy decision.
That is the message the AMD silence is telling me because why would they let those buyers walk on by? What because they are fixated by Nvidia only, no not all of them in fact this first cohort of adopters are exactly the ones you want to target because they are less price sensitive than others and will look at the numbers not just the brand.
It's like the AMD product and marketing team has gone on annual vacation
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No dude that is not true, you can't generalise like that. I can 100% assure you I personally have switched between brands over the years not everyone is wedded to one camp or the other... some are yes, but not all.
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Then say so, how does that help AMD? All that does is feed some perverse 'I told you so' satisfaction to a subset of consumers who guessed right. Haha you got tricked by Nvidia - well jes thanks AMD for letting that happen tell you what I'm going to buy your new AM5 platform by way of an apology and I promise never to buy the competition again...
Doesn't really work does it, kind of sends a bad message in reality
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This unfortunately encapsulates some of the psychology of what is wrong with the scene. Its only a subsect of the 80% but its enough to mean the mindshare will never shift as you need that % of people to sway for long term change.
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I don't see AMD beating NV, they will get close enough as to not matter to most people with a brain while gaming, then the use can choose whether the NV feature set, or the AMD set, whichever suits you better, and then decide whether you want to pay NV tax, or get just as many frames, better IQ on AMD imo, but not better RT (many don't care, some do) - and save money. That's the pattern which has been set for a quite a long while, I don't see it changing.
I don't think they even compete, I think there's two distinct offerings not side by side competetion.
I don't think they even compete, I think there's two distinct offerings not side by side competetion.
Not at all. I was hoping to find out if AMD will have the better performing card, if it’s cheaper too then that would be a bonus.
I’ve owned AMD and Nvidia cards, and will continue to do so. Red or Green, can’t say that I give a $#!t.
some people got locked into a brand depending on their monitor though
Same story every time. Hoping AMD brings out something better and cheaper. Or better.. at same price. Hasn’t happened and won’t ever happen but fanboys still do the same old dance before a new gen of cards. ‘It’s gonna be different this time’, then it’s ‘drivers will improve perf’, then ‘RT isn’t that important’… bla bla bla
They are 2 gens behind in RT and temporal upscaling. As much as I hate nvidia prices and ‘politics’, nothing can touch them.
Almost every game nowadays has RT and DLSS.
They are 2 gens behind in RT and temporal upscaling. As much as I hate nvidia prices and ‘politics’, nothing can touch them.
Almost every game nowadays has RT and DLSS.
Name me a big AAA game coming out NEW on PC thats being released soon and will have full RT with no rasterization mode as well, name me one.
Why soon? People are buying cards to last them 2 years at minimum. Also people might want to play already released games maxed out with RT and DLSS of which there are many.
Plus there will be even more UE5 games coming out, even indie ones with lots of RT effects and DLSS.
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Anything AAA with RT will run great on AMD as it's optimized for consoles which use AMD. The examples are already there with the Resident evil games.
FSR adoption has been great and much faster than DLSS on the same timeframes. There is really no reason to avoid AMD unless you're a fanboy or RDNA3 greatly underperforms.
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AMD have had better offerings in the past and people still bought the inferior nvidia at the time. AMD could have a card 100% more powerful and still sell less, all the goal post shifting on excuses would be hilarious.
Always loved nvidia products but as a company they’re shady as. Amd isn’t perfect either but they’re the better of the two and I’m really hoping rdna3 delivers.
It really would be nice to have some more snippets of information about it.
But there’s a very good likelihood I’m going amd either way at this point.
It really would be nice to have some more snippets of information about it.
But there’s a very good likelihood I’m going amd either way at this point.
It reminds me of an old video of someone picking people out of the line queuing for a new iPhone and asking them what they are looking forward to with the new phone. They always look so confused at the question before retorting "its the new iPhone dummy"
That's BS. If you actually believe that, you're either very young, very ignorant or simply pretending to be to suit a narrative. AMD (and further back ATI) have had the superior product a bunch of times in the past. And you know what happened? People bought inferior Nvidia alternatives anyway for the most part. Consumers created Nvidia as it exists today by blindly sticking with them even when there was a better alternative. That's why I can't really feel any sympathy for Nvidia fanboys moaning about how they're being milked now. You chose to stick the pumps on your chest.
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