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RDNA2 Refresh for 2022 6x50XT cards

Alan McFall said:
I think whole lineup is overpriced.

3060TI gives 6700XT a run for it's money and smashes it in anything heavily raytraced. 5700XT was £400.. roughly what the 6700XT should cost to be competitive. Why is it 20% more ?

6800 sat in no mans land because it should be competing with the 3070 at £500.

6800xt fine if you disregard raytracing and production work but £600 would have definately given them a lot more appeal.

6900xt.. whatever lol. Only reason 3090 gets to sit up there is because of it money making potential (production work and content creation).

Cash grab imo, same as ZEN3... only differnce being that ZEN3 was actually a superior product.

I reckon Nvidia screwed the pooch on VRAM though, 3070 and 3080 should have been 12gb and i'm not agreeing with the price of the RTX3000 series either, it's a discrace what you have to pay for a half decent card at MSRP.. £400 for a 60 class card.. £1200 for a 'gaming' GPU.. if my PC wasn't so central to my existence i'd be telling them both to go ****** themselves.
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So you admit Nvidia GPU's are more expensive, But AMD are cash garbing.
 
Alan McFall said:
Yes, Nvidia are too expensive and still have the better value products in the stack (in my opinion) due to AMD's cash grabbing. If the 3070 was £450 then there's no way AMD would be asking £479 for the 6700xt.
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If the 6700XT was $300 Nvidia would not be charging $500 for the 3070

You still haven't explained how its AMD who are cash grabbing, but not Nvidia.
 
Alan McFall said:
Yes, Nvidia are too expensive and still have the better value products in the stack (in my opinion) due to AMD's cash grabbing. If the 3070 was £450 then there's no way AMD would be asking £479 for the 6700xt.
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Nvidia are no longer giving and MSRP for the cards ; FE cards will end this gen as well for the same reason. RTX 3090Ti is coming in at $3000
 
NinjaCool said:
New leak suggests AMD's 6950XT might already launch in mid April.
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-6950xt-with-18-gbps-memory-could-launch-already-in-april
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Isn't the XTX binning already 18 gbps? It is according to TPU's database anyhow:
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-6900-xtx.c3800
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Guess there is not much faster available? A pity as 6900 does seem memory constrained. That is at 1080P it leads the 3090, at 1440P is fairly even, at 2160P is ends up behind. Either faster memory or more Infinity Cache. Stacked 3D cache for the top SKU is the obvious answer but that's not coming yet (AFAIK).
 
humbug said:
If the 6700XT was $300 Nvidia would not be charging $500 for the 3070

You still haven't explained how its AMD who are cash grabbing, but not Nvidia.
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Yup, if the 6700xt was $300 and was available it would force Nvidia to drop prices, but it isn't, they've instead slotted into the stack at +20% cost over the last generation, they're not competing for market share they're increasing profits.. but to be fair at the end of the day they just sell the main components to AIB's who manufacture at set the real world price at seemingly anything they see fit.
 
Alan McFall said:
Yup, if the 6700xt was $300 and was available it would force Nvidia to drop prices, but it isn't, they've instead slotted into the stack at +20% cost over the last generation, they're not competing for market share they're increasing profits.. but to be fair at the end of the day they just sell the main components to AIB's who manufacture at set the real world price at seemingly anything they see fit.
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From all your posts I get the vibe that you want AMD to offer reduced prices to force Nvidia to lower prices so you can then get Nvidia gpu's at better prices. This is the typical Nvidia fanboy complaint against AMD. Too bad for you that AMD has to provide enough chips to the consoles to meet demand. The gpu market is not their main priority at the moment so why on earth would they flood the market and lower prices??

The current price gouging is all due to Nvidia selling to miners so if you want to blame someone then blame Nvidia since a huge quantity of gpu's are sold direct to miners before they even get to retailers. AMD is benefitting from this be also selling at higher prices.
 
humbug said:
Hopefully AMD are doing this to flood the market with GPU's and keep prices down.
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AMD hasn't sold us a single reference card since brexit started! We're literally locked out from the store on the AMD site. Only options are AIB's, just goes to show how much they care tbh.

I'm all for it if AMD manages to bring prices down throughout the market across the board.
 
fs123 said:
From all your posts I get the vibe that you want AMD to offer reduced prices to force Nvidia to lower prices so you can then get Nvidia gpu's at better prices. This is the typical Nvidia fanboy complaint against AMD. Too bad for you that AMD has to provide enough chips to the consoles to meet demand. The gpu market is not their main priority at the moment so why on earth would they flood the market and lower prices??

The current price gouging is all due to Nvidia selling to miners so if you want to blame someone then blame Nvidia since a huge quantity of gpu's are sold direct to miners before they even get to retailers. AMD is benefitting from this be also selling at higher prices.
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Hahahaha, fan boy, I'm happy that you've done your research and read my 717 posts to confirm your suspicions :cry::cry:

I want AMD to lower the price of their products because they aren't worth it when compared to NVIDIA. I can guarentee that there are going to be plenty of games over the next couple of years that show how the RX6000 series are hamstrung. CP2077 and DL2 are good examples of this already, as it stands with these games you need a 6900XT ($999) to keep up with my 3060TI ($399) on max settings :eek:

If you examine the evidence you'll find that it's AIB's who have been selling in quantity directly to miners throughout this pandemic and that they are also the ones who are (in effect) setting the retail prices, the fact you are blaming NVIDIA for this is revealing. AMD set the MSRP of their cards 20% higher than the last gen, Nvidia did not, infact they reduced the prices of a couple (not that this made them reasonably priced imo - £325 for a 3060.. pffft) and sold FE models at MSRP in the UK.
 
gpuerrilla said:
This was identical observation pre Ampere, mentioned many a time! Excellent though that others are noticing it albeit some years later. :D
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I imagine that the observations made ignored the new tec and featues of the time (RRT a 'gimmick' and DLSS just 'cheating' to make FPS numbers look better). Not good that AMD are still releasing products with the same lack of new tec/features and are now charging more for them !

If we 'image' that NVIDIA MRSP's are justified, do you think AMD MSRP prices are justified ? explain.
 
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