real world difference - amd vs intel?

[FatRakoon]

C2D beats K8 in everything.

And anyone who burns 4 DVD's at the same time at 2x is a noob.

There is no reason for doing this.

KTHXBYE

Yes there is... I ahve a lot of Disks to burn, I can start them all off and go out.

When I come back, they are done.

If I did only one at a time, when I came back, Id still have 3 more to do!

I dont do it all the time... Usually when I need to simply burn a DVD, I will bnurn it at 8 or 16 ( depends on the disk ), but I do a load of disks for our club, most of them are obviously copies of the same thing, so NOT doing a load at once is time consuming and stupid.

 

[jamjar]

maybe tell use why intels are crap... why are you fedup with it?

Yes the CPU will only be as good as the motherboard too,you must have a good motherboard

 

[easyrider]

Yes there is... I ahve a lot of Disks to burn, I can start them all off and go out.

When I come back, they are done.

If I did only one at a time, when I came back, Id still have 3 more to do!

I dont do it all the time... Usually when I need to simply burn a DVD, I will bnurn it at 8 or 16 ( depends on the disk ), but I do a load of disks for our club, most of them are obviously copies of the same thing, so NOT doing a load at once is time consuming and stupid.

Be quicker to burn one at a time at 16 speed.

This is fact.

Set number of copies and just feed the pc when you are on it.

You would get more done in less time

Believe me.

When I burn 60 copies of DVD's for students this is the way I do it

 

[snowdog]

And anyone who burns 4 DVD's at the same time at 2x is a noob.

Or tries to save money instead of buying heavily overpiced 16x dvd's, ill prefer to burn 2 dvd's at once on 8x for example than wasting money on 16x dvd's...


About burning 4 dvd's at once: i will soon burn 4 at once at 8x (8x is usually what the dvd's i buy are) as i have over 500 gb's of dl's to burn, and burning one or 2 at once is way too slow...

 

[james.miller]

Or tries to save money instead of buying heavily overpiced 16x dvd's, ill prefer to burn 2 dvd's at once on 8x for example than wasting money on 16x dvd's...


About burning 4 dvd's at once: i will soon burn 4 at once at 8x (8x is usually what the dvd's i buy are) as i have over 500 gb's of dl's to burn, and burning one or 2 at once is way too slow...

heavily overpriced 16x's? they are 20p a disc for verbatim 16's for gawd sake. how cheap do you want them?

Ah well... sometimes people just won't accept they are wrong.

a dig at me? if im wrong im wrong, but ill need some proof of this, like the official tests that FatRakoon speaks of. i've not seen any test results yet?

 

[snowdog]

heavily overpriced 16x's? they are 20p a disc for verbatim 16's for gawd sake. how cheap do you want them?

As cheap as 8x ones, i personally dont care about speed, just size, i wont buy 16x's unlesst hey are the same price as all other 4.7gb dvd's...

20 p a disc may be a little for u but for somone that isn't working its a lot if u need more than 100...



I persoanlly believe fatrakooon about c2d being crap when feeding them with too many jobs...
Anyhow ill get a c2d anyhow as my next upgrade, as i wont run any background apps when gaming...

 

[easyrider]

heavily overpriced 16x's? they are 20p a disc for verbatim 16's for gawd sake. how cheap do you want them?

Indeed its false economy getting low quality DVD media.

I only use Verbatim or TY disks.

Never had a bad one on my plextor at 16 X ever

 

[InSanCen]

a dig at me? if im wrong im wrong, but ill need some proof of this, like the official tests that FatRakoon speaks of. i've not seen any test results yet?

Wan't intended that way mate, but if you want, I'm happy to oblige.

I just get annoyed when people flat-out tell you that your experiences are wrong, and that you must be hallucinating... well, that's the impression I tend to get off certain people in this thread, not to mention the other one.


How about everyone just agrees to disagree, and let's get this thread back on topic eh?

 

[easyrider]

How about everyone just agrees to disagree, and let's get this thread back on topic eh?

TBH there is no topic.

C2D beats the pants off my opty 170 @ 2.8ghz at eveything

 

[WJA96]

As cheap as 8x ones, i personally dont care about speed, just size, i wont buy 16x's unlesst hey are the same price as all other 4.7gb dvd's...

20 p a disc may be a little for u but for somone that isn't working its a lot if u need more than 100...



I persoanlly believe fatrakooon about c2d being crap when feeding them with too many jobs...
Anyhow ill get a c2d anyhow as my next upgrade, as i wont run any background apps when gaming...

Can I be terribly rude and ask what legitimate purpose you have to burn more than 100 DVD's?

 

[FatRakoon]

Problems exists with the OCUK forums in that many people see what they want to see, and then set about slagging others off... REgardles sof what else might have been in any posts.

I have never said that the AMD is faster than the intel at anything...

Except...

When you load it up with multiple apps.

Then the gap closes between them.

Eventually, the Intel will crawl, while the AMD ( Which also crawls of course it does ) will not crawl as much as the intel.

I can only voutch for my own systems of course I cannot voutch for all, and this is what I see, and this is what I have always said.

The AMD has superior multi-threaded support over the intels, and while one or two apps will still be better on the intel, several apps it wont be.

Even Vista runs better on an x2 than on a C2D because of it. Again, I cannot prove that as I have no intention of using Vista , but google is a great friend.

I dont care whether anyone believes anything I say, I really dont. If anyone says anything I dont think is right, I test it for myself, which is why I got a conroe, but with what I do with my systems, I find my AMDs are better at it... And thats why my conroe is in the attic and my AMD is downstairs as my main machine.

 

[FatRakoon]

Can I be terribly rude and ask what legitimate purpose you have to burn more than 100 DVD's?

I think its more a case of buying the 100 DVDs rather than burning.

I burn tons of them... Sometimes as much as 35 need to be done by the next day... Sometimes I give out say 10 copies cos others can then copy those.

This is because of our club, and its all our own footage and all perfectly legit.

Now, burning 4 at a time means that I can start 4 off, and walk away... one at a time gets a bit monotonous and ridiculous.... Even 4 at a time is bad enough.

Hey, if you fancy a laugh, I have actually done 8 at once before... Did this for a while actually, but that was just too much... 8 DVD Drives in one PC? - I needed the room for more HDs.

 

[snowdog]

Can I be terribly rude and ask what legitimate purpose you have to burn more than 100 DVD's?

My downloads form last 6 months approx, all my 1.26 terrabyte is almost full, i need to burn about 500 gb to get some space free for new dl's...

 

[Raikiri]

My downloads form last 6 months approx, all my 1.26 terrabyte is almost full, i need to burn about 500 gb to get some space free for new dl's...

Pretty sure he said legitimate

 

[snowdog]

Pretty sure he said legitimate

Is legal where i live...

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4. Een internetbestand (met muziek of een film) downloaden mag. Maar pas op met p2p uitwisseldiensten, want als je daarmee downloadt wordt je automatisch uploader, dat is "ter verspreiding aanbieden" en dat mag niet.
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Hmm why is ''w at'' (w/o the space) replaced by *** in the quote link ?

Translated by http://www1.worldlingo.com/en/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html

4. A Internet file (with music or a film) can download. But just with p2p uitwisseldiensten, because if you download with that you automatic uploader become, that is for distribution offers and that cannot.

Sorry for the poor translation but to clarify:
mag or (translated to can in eng ) in dutch means not just ''can'' but also ''allowed to'', so roughly what it says there (human translation by me, ask some dutch if u know one if u dont believe me and if ** bothered...):

Downloading an internetfile is allowed. But watch out with p2p services/programs, because when you download with them you become an uploader automaticly, that is ''spreading to others'' and that isn't allowed...

Just posted (wasnt bothered at first) this because i hate it when people assume dowloading films is illegal for me, where I live its legal as long as I dont spread...

 

[WJA96]

Is legal where i live...

If you're in the EU, it's illegal to download copyright material eg. movies or music without paying a fee to the copyright holder. So, if you have been doing that then they could prosecute you assuming that your ISP will give them your details (most of them are now doing this) and because of the new EU 'extradition' legislation, if the UK police want to arrest you, they just phone the Dutch police, they arrest you on behalf of the UK police and they hand you over at Hoek van Holland or Schiphol. You have no right of appeal in Holland, only in the UK, because you have effectively been arrested by the UK authorities. Welcome to the new EU. And it works the other way too!

 

[FatRakoon]

But, if it IS legal in his country, there is nothing the UK authorities can or will do.

Because it would open tyhe floodgates for a great many people being arrested for breaking the laws of our country when they are perfectly legal in his own.

As long as he is not breaking the law of the land, then he is fine surely.

 

[joeyjojo]

You're an arse for not uploading.

Very off-topic thread

 

[WJA96]

But, if it IS legal in his country, there is nothing the UK authorities can or will do.

Because it would open tyhe floodgates for a great many people being arrested for breaking the laws of our country when they are perfectly legal in his own.

As long as he is not breaking the law of the land, then he is fine surely.

He's in Holland, where it is definitely illegal to download copyright material, and the main players in copyright theft prevention/prosecution are in the UK so the example is valid. The really worrying thing is he seems to think it's legal as long as he doesn't upload. It really isn't.

 

[FatRakoon]

I would have thought it was indeed illegal of course, but I dont know their laws as such.

As much as I think that trying to stop downloading of illegal media is a ridiculous idea that will eventually kill off the Movie / Music industry, the law is still the law I suppose.