Recommend me a sub

Raymond Lin · 18 Dec 2011 at 21:49

-BA- said:
Well a few people have told me now that I won't be disappointed with "settling" for the 400 so I am pretty chilled about it now. You should get an email from BK at some point just to remind you it is built to order and will probably be the 1st or 2nd week of January. Been so long without a sub for me (2 months ish) that I really can't wait and am holding off from watching a load of movies.

I am picking up my rear and fronts this week..it'll be a month without a sub !

p.s. I have never spent this much on speakers ! lol

-BA- · 18 Dec 2011 at 21:49

Lowe said:
It's a line commonly spouted by people who talk the talk but haven't actually got a clue. It's then commonly picked up by others and spread as gospel. I always make this point on any forum where people start along the lines of 400 for music and Monolith for movies. It's a bugbear of mine lol

Raymond, enjoy the sub. Now think about an Antimode when budget allows, especially of you're going to put it in a corner.

I am keen for someone to put my mind at ease about the reverse of this common statement. How is the 400 for movies?

Chong Warrior · 18 Dec 2011 at 22:17

Raymond Lin said:
I think the 400 is the perfect size, shame the price isn't a bit lower, if i got the space I would go for the Monolith, but that is a beast, not just width but also height.

BTW, what on earth are in these things?

200 - 17kg
400 - 27kg !
Monolith - 47kg!!!!!!!!!!

47kg ! That is the weight of a adult female!

They need to be that heavy. I had my XLS200 on spikes on a granite plynth but it just bounces itself off!

Tbh no matter which one you buy, you won't be disappointed with the price you paid

Raymond Lin · 18 Dec 2011 at 22:25

Chong Warrior said:
They need to be that heavy. I had my XLS200 on spikes on a granite plynth but it just bounces itself off!

Tbh no matter which one you buy, you won't be disappointed with the price you paid

Just realised I made the mistake of asking for a Stereo Lead. Would that still work? Just use one side not the other?

Or should I call them tomorrow to make the correction?

negger · 18 Dec 2011 at 22:34

I've got the same pioneer amp and recieved the mono+ (light oak finish) about two weeks ago .... it really is well made and sounds superb, had a little messing about with the settings on the amp but that's more down to me not knowing what to choose in the menus.
I've friends who've spent triple what the mono cost and i can't tell the difference

Also toying with the idea of buying an antimode .... guess i just want to know i'm getting my moneys worth out of the sub ....

Enjoy.

-BA- · 18 Dec 2011 at 22:35

For the sake of a phone call, I would go for the right lead. I have seen a few people recommend granite chopping boards from Argos as being adequate for sitting the sub on.

Hmm just checked its dimensions though and at 40x30 I don't think it will suit anything other than the Gemini or 200. Am in B&Q tomorrow so will have a snoop there.

Somnambulist · 18 Dec 2011 at 23:10

Raymond Lin said:
I think the 400 is the perfect size, shame the price isn't a bit lower, if i got the space I would go for the Monolith, but that is a beast, not just width but also height.

BTW, what on earth are in these things?

200 - 17kg
400 - 27kg !
Monolith - 47kg!!!!!!!!!!

47kg ! That is the weight of a adult female!

Heh, each Focal Grande Utopia EM loudspeaker weights 260KG. Imagine getting that up or down some stairs!

Chong Warrior · 18 Dec 2011 at 23:21

Raymond Lin said:
Just realised I made the mistake of asking for a Stereo Lead. Would that still work? Just use one side not the other?

Or should I call them tomorrow to make the correction?

Give them a call or drop them an email, they are supposed to be good helping people out, if a little slow.

You don't want the stereo lead.

Lowe · 19 Dec 2011 at 09:29

-BA- said:
I am keen for someone to put my mind at ease about the reverse of this common statement. How is the 400 for movies?

It'll be fine. The Monolith has a little more extension granted, and it's this extra depth that gives it the 'better for movies' tag. What people forget to follow it up with is, the 400 isn't exactly a poor substitute!

booyaka · 19 Dec 2011 at 09:52

Lowe said:
It'll be fine. The Monolith has a little more extension granted, and it's this extra depth that gives it the 'better for movies' tag. What people forget to follow it up with is, the 400 isn't exactly a poor substitute!

that's the truth!! - the 400 is a superb sub - it's very very impressive. More than enough "grunt" for any movies - as my wee lad said - "why does the room rumble so much dad" - when we had the XLS400 cranked up the other day watching a film!

Raymond Lin · 19 Dec 2011 at 10:04

Chong Warrior said:
Give them a call or drop them an email, they are supposed to be good helping people out, if a little slow.

You don't want the stereo lead.

Done

I can't wait now!

Although a little bit of DIY will be needed to get the cables to go around the room.

WILD9 · 19 Dec 2011 at 10:27

-BA- said:
Well a few people have told me now that I won't be disappointed with "settling" for the 400 so I am pretty chilled about it now. You should get an email from BK at some point just to remind you it is built to order and will probably be the 1st or 2nd week of January. Been so long without a sub for me (2 months ish) that I really can't wait and am holding off from watching a load of movies.

If you havn't owned a monolith you will definately be satisfied with the 400 and even if you had I understand the 400 compares fairly well. Get ready for a week of watching/feeling things explode while you grin like a chimp, its what I did when i got my mono

Lowe · 19 Dec 2011 at 10:38

WILD9 said:
If you havn't owned a monolith you will definately be satisfied with the 400 and even if you had I understand the 400 compares fairly well. Get ready for a week of watching/feeling things explode while you grin like a chimp, its what I did when i got my mono

I think everyone does the same once a new sub arrives. Out comes War of the Worlds, Cloverfield et al!

I did the same when I bought my first Mono, then did the whole lot again when I bought the second.

booyaka · 19 Dec 2011 at 10:57

Lowe said:
when I bought the second.

that's just rubbing it in!!

agw_01 · 19 Dec 2011 at 11:14

I'm at least 12 months away from a new sub.

This thread isn't helping

Raymond Lin · 19 Dec 2011 at 13:41

Just got the email regardnig build time, currently 10 to 14 days. Taking into account they are probably closed next week I think I am looking into middle of January.

Long wait !!!!!!!

booyaka · 19 Dec 2011 at 13:48

Raymond Lin said:
Just got the email regardnig build time, currently 10 to 14 days. Taking into account they are probably closed next week I think I am looking into middle of January.

Long wait !!!!!!!

it is but worth it - the quality of the craftsmanship, the sound and the weight of it is worth it all in the end!!!

sHo0sH · 19 Dec 2011 at 15:13

Lowe said:
I think everyone does the same once a new sub arrives. Out comes War of the Worlds, Cloverfield et al!

I did the same when I bought my first Mono, then did the whole lot again when I bought the second.

Have you tried U571 - the depth charge scene? that must be absolutely epic with TWO monos!

Lowe · 19 Dec 2011 at 16:01

sHo0sH said:
Have you tried U571 - the depth charge scene? that must be absolutely epic with TWO monos!

It's on my Blu ray Xmas list. I await if anyone actually buys it for me, otherwise I'll be straight on to ordering it. I've heard the rumours it's a good en hehe.

-BA- · 20 Dec 2011 at 13:06

Woohoo just had a call from Olive at BK. My XXLS400 is getting delivered tomorrow now! Guess someone pulled out

. One advantage of going for a standard finish