Recommend me a sub

Raymond Lin · 23 Dec 2011 at 13:49

Nick1881 said:
DTS and Dolby Digital are just different formats, DTS is Dolby Theatre Surround, some films will have DTS and others with have DD, same with the HD formats, DTS-HD MA and Dolby TrueHD.

Is there a way to select that in the amp?

There are loads, like Pure Direct, ALC, Natural Surround etc etc

zpos · 23 Dec 2011 at 13:55

Nick1881 said:
For a second I was thinking I haven't heard of that make, then it clicked

james.miller · 23 Dec 2011 at 14:01

Is there a way to select that in the amp?

There are loads, like Pure Direct, ALC, Natural Surround etc etc

DD and DTS (used to be Digital theatre surround, however it literally is called DTS now) are audio formats stored in the movie file, be it on a bluray disc or zipped up in an mkv file on your pc or wherever. what you speak of there, natural surround, pure direct ect, are not audio formats. For want of a better description, they are sound modes and dsp modes. Pure digital for example will switch all of the trickery off and play the audio exactly as it is recieved, ie: no custom crossovers, no eqs enabled ect. dsp modes like natueral surround, on the other hand, apply custom custom equalisation and/or channel mixing, echo, reverb ect with the aim being to alter the sound in some way (and they are almost all a complete waste of time, too).

Choosing DD or DTS tracks. it's the player's job to filter out the audio format that you want to play and send it to the amp. So if you want to swap from listening to a Dolby digital track to a dts track, then this must be done on the player, not the amp

Raymond Lin · 23 Dec 2011 at 14:07

james.miller said:
Choosing DD or DTS tracks. it's the player's job to filter out the audio format that you want to play and send it to the amp. So if you want to swap from listening to a Dolby digital track to a dts track, then this must be done on the player, not the amp

Ah ! that makes more sense !

The Audio button on the BD player rotates the sound track

moody · 23 Dec 2011 at 16:10

Raymond Lin said:
I got my 5.0 (waiting for my sub) set up too !!! Actually, just a centre short of 7.1 lol

Even 5.0 it sounds pretty good ! can't wait for the sub

If you're only a centre short plus sub of 7.1 then you must have a 6.0 set-up already. Centre's are only a single speaker.

Raymond Lin · 23 Dec 2011 at 16:13

moody said:
If you're only a centre short plus sub of 7.1 then you must have a 6.0 set-up already. Centre's are only a single speaker.

Well, I have the following

B&W 602 x 2
B&W M-1 x 4

I suppose to have a proper B&W Centre coming, but today its the last day it supposed to arrived but it hasn't. If it doesn't get here tomorrow then i am raising a query from eBay.

If I get that centre then I have 7.1, it not then I have 5.1 (with a spare M-1).

moody · 23 Dec 2011 at 20:09

Raymond Lin said:
Well, I have the following

B&W 602 x 2
B&W M-1 x 4

I suppose to have a proper B&W Centre coming, but today its the last day it supposed to arrived but it hasn't. If it doesn't get here tomorrow then i am raising a query from eBay.

If I get that centre then I have 7.1, it not then I have 5.1 (with a spare M-1).

Why not set it up as 6.1 then? You can use one of the m-1 as a centre and have the additional one as a centre back. Have a look on the net. Obviously 7.1 would be more ideal and a proper centre but no reason you can't use a m-1 as a central speaker.

Raymond Lin · 23 Dec 2011 at 22:33

moody said:
Why not set it up as 6.1 then? You can use one of the m-1 as a centre and have the additional one as a centre back. Have a look on the net. Obviously 7.1 would be more ideal and a proper centre but no reason you can't use a m-1 as a central speaker.

I thought about that but i can't find the output for rear centre.

At 7.1 you basically add 2 side speakers, so i am not sure how I add a rear centre. Unless I put in a side and then kind shuffle them closer lol

james.miller · 23 Dec 2011 at 22:42

Raymond Lin said:
I thought about that but i can't find the output for rear centre.

Left surround back is the output you use for a 3rd rear speaker on that amp, it's labled as such in that photo you posted

At 7.1 you basically add 2 side speakers, so i am not sure how I add a rear centre. Unless I put in a side and then kind shuffle them closer lol

In 7.1 you add the surround back speakers. in 5.1 the rear speakers are supposed to be in-line to just behind the seating area.

http://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/products/articles/129023.html

Raymond Lin · 23 Dec 2011 at 23:16

Ah, you learn something new everyday!

Raymond Lin · 11 Jan 2012 at 00:54

-BA- said:
Woohoo just had a call from Olive at BK. My XXLS400 is getting delivered tomorrow now! Guess someone pulled out . One advantage of going for a standard finish

How has your's been?

Mine should be here soooooooooooooooon !

opethdisciple · 11 Jan 2012 at 01:13

Recommend you a sub?

Steak & Cheese Classic!!

Jano · 20 Jan 2012 at 15:55

Has it turned up yet? Just been advised mine will be ready for delivery early next week

Raymond Lin · 20 Jan 2012 at 16:05

Jano said:
Has it turned up yet? Just been advised mine will be ready for delivery early next week

Nope, but had a call today re delivery and asked to be delivered on Tuesday.

Jano · 20 Jan 2012 at 16:11

I'm hoping mine will be about the same. Now I need to stop myself from getting an Antimode alongside it.

Raymond Lin · 20 Jan 2012 at 16:19

Jano said:
I'm hoping mine will be about the same. Now I need to stop myself from getting an Antimode alongside it.

I'll probably get one but will let it settles down first. It's a closed unit so it should be more forgiving to placement and adaptable than a ported sub.

-Ad- · 20 Jan 2012 at 16:37

I setup my Monolith using a feedback destroyer (£30) in between the amp and the sub, and SPL meter from BK (£20?) and some bodged together cables to a laptop.

Plenty of sweeps using REW and test sounds through the sub/speakers and I setup the crossover nicely. It helped me position the sub as well. Then the feedback destoyer can take off those excessive boomy peaks in certain frequency areas and can give a little boost in some other areas.

Did take me 2 full days of a weekend, but was well worth it, the speakers and sub then blended in perfectly.

Raymond Lin · 20 Jan 2012 at 17:21

-Ad- said:
I setup my Monolith using a feedback destroyer (£30) in between the amp and the sub, and SPL meter from BK (£20?) and some bodged together cables to a laptop.

Plenty of sweeps using REW and test sounds through the sub/speakers and I setup the crossover nicely. It helped me position the sub as well. Then the feedback destoyer can take off those excessive boomy peaks in certain frequency areas and can give a little boost in some other areas.

Did take me 2 full days of a weekend, but was well worth it, the speakers and sub then blended in perfectly.

2 days? I got better things to do lol

If it doesn't sound good in 2 places that I can fit the sub then i will get the antimode. I really don't have time faffing around, 2 hours yes but 2 days lol

-Ad- · 20 Jan 2012 at 17:35

Make time, those who say they don't have time are bad at managing their time

Just stick it in there and turn up the knob to about 1/3 and enjoy boom boom boom boom

Raymond Lin · 20 Jan 2012 at 17:39

-Ad- said:
Make time, those who say they don't have time are bad at managing their time

Just stick it in there and turn up the knob to about 1/3 and enjoy boom boom boom boom

Take away sleeping hours.

Saturday and sunday between 4pm to 10pm I'm busy.

Monday to Friday I'm out of the house 12hrs at a time, minus sleeping, the rest is for eating, cleaning cooking, washing, shopping.

Plus I got pictures to edit, website to design, albums to design.

Seriously, it's more economical to spend £200 than 2 days playing with a sub lol.