Red Sea / Houthi rebels situation

It also isn’t an area defence weapon it is a point defence system designed to protect the ship carrying it and these drones are not targeting the warships in general and they chew through ammo incredibly quickly.

The real omission on our current ships is a deck gun with an AA capability our are only any use for support gunfire. The next generation are due to get a deck gun with an AA capability which is a cheap and effective way of taking out relatively slow moving drones at a decent range.

CIWS is much cheaper, but you have to let the Unknown Threat get much closer to you.

Though the self-destruct mechanism on the shells provides some protection from this, one of the aspects they have to deal with in this situation is the mixed civilian and military situation and potential for collateral damage to civilian ships, infrastructure and even aircraft from debris, spent munitions and/or malfunctions or misses, etc. using missiles allows them much more control over the battlespace.
 
Let the chinese send their ships then, its their trade thats being affected. Funny we have no problem allowing the bombing of the snot out of civilians when it suits us. Armchair generals unite! What a worthless thread.

The Iranians are due some shock and awe and they fully deserve it... time for you to cope and seethe a bit. The US is not looking to target civilians at all in their response, they're likely gonna target IRGC facilities, Iranian-linked militias in Syria/Iraq/Yemen and quite possibly things like drone factories.
 
Inshallah, they shall wipe out the drone factories... time to do Ukraine a big favour.

Should probably step up the bombing of the hooty-tooty rebels in Yemen too.

I believe their drone and arms factories are mostly in underground facilities.

US options are limited - just go after the rebels and appear weak or have direct strikes in Iranian borders and risk escalating the war while also give Iran justification to start building nuclear weapons
 
Jesus Christ....

I wish I booked my holiday in February now. April is gonna be cloudy with a chance of drones.

Some pro Iranian nut jobs going to do something domestic in the USA if they retaliate with some shock and awe Ariel freedom.
 
The drone situation is very interesting, in a sick way.

Although the writing has been on the wall for a while, I don't think anyone anticipated the way that drones have just taken over warfare.

It's typical, of course, that the UK is totally unprepared for this. We are using £1m rockets to shoot down £2000 drones. And its obvious that you could easily overpower the defences of our ships with enough drones. Once again, the government stumbling around in the dark.

Oh, and where are our aircraft carriers? Perhaps it's a good idea that they aren't there, since we can't seem to afford the support or planes for them.
 
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It also isn’t an area defence weapon it is a point defence system designed to protect the ship carrying it and these drones are not targeting the warships in general and they chew through ammo incredibly quickly.

The real omission on our current ships is a deck gun with an AA capability our are only any use for support gunfire. The next generation are due to get a deck gun with an AA capability which is a cheap and effective way of taking out relatively slow moving drones at a decent range.

You mean a longer range bushmaster style with flack capability? (Aka Gepard on a ship). Same issue - large ammo use.
Long range aa is where a small rail gun would work if they could guarantee the accuracy but they can’t.

Small missiles are still possibly the answer.
 
The drone situation is very interesting, in a sick way.

Although the writing has been on the wall for a while, I don't think anyone anticipated the way that drones have just taken over warfare.

It's typical, of course, that the UK is totally unprepared for this. We are using £1m rockets to shoot down £2000 drones. And its obvious that you could easily overpower the defences of our ships with enough drones. Once again, the government stumbling around in the dark.

Oh, and where are our aircraft carriers? Perhaps it's a good idea that they aren't there, since we can't seem to afford the support or planes for them.

The QE carrier radar is specifically designed for drones as small as a tennis ball. Tracking capability in the thousands.
Now that doesnt mean actually safeguarding shipping other than the carrier group.
That’s where your frigate with more guns/missile options would be.
 
I believe their drone and arms factories are mostly in underground facilities.

US options are limited - just go after the rebels and appear weak or have direct strikes in Iranian borders and risk escalating the war while also give Iran justification to start building nuclear weapons

Also Iran is part of BRICS.. hence there will be a lot of china-US diplomatic tension.

I suspect that a country in the region will spark off a localised war in preference as part of a proxy war. The strategy is to drain US stores through skimishes with non-US armies that simply use way more weapons than they need.

I think the rebels will have a very bad day.

Alternative is Isreal get a funding line and go happy on Iran.
 
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Unless there is a major, home grown shift in policy and attitude in the Middle East, there's always going to be the threat of something kicking off out there..
 
I believe their drone and arms factories are mostly in underground facilities.

US options are limited - just go after the rebels and appear weak or have direct strikes in Iranian borders and risk escalating the war while also give Iran justification to start building nuclear weapons

they could sink that big Iranian ship off the coast of Yemen and it's two Iranian Navy escorts... that was one rumoured option supposedly leaked.
 
Unless there is a major, home grown shift in policy and attitude in the Middle East, there's always going to be the threat of something kicking off out there..

Re: Middle East always ready to kill each other. This is the way..

The entire area is always in tension and always has been. It just takes an accidental wrong word or someone running over someone's line in the sand. A minor scuffle occurs and it ends up as a new balance where they hate each other.
 
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