What will it achieve exactly to keep doing the same thing that the Saudi's have been doing (and gotten bored of) for the last decade?
Unless we target Iran directly this is pointless and waste of limited munitions.
Red Sea / Houthi rebels situation
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Unless we target Iran directly this is pointless and waste of limited munitions.
Soldato
We are interdicting deliveries where we can, we are restricting Iran where possible but hitting their clients in Yemen and in Ukraine is one current partial solution.
Soldato
Who made us the world police?
I mean, I wouldn't mind if we could back it up. In my mind, we are just painting a big fat target on ourselves because we can't carry through with any of our threats.
All we really have is a nuclear deterrent that has just shown itself to not work reliably. We has disposed of our nuclear weapons design and manufacturing capability now so we can't even produce a second deterrent or replace the existing one.
I despair, I really do. We are heading for disaster and these damn politicians won't do anything about it.
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We make our warheads in places like Aldermaston. A nephew of mine worked there. Only the missile portion is subbed from the yanks. Which is probably why they have failures.
We have always been the world's police since Francis Drake, together with a few others. Coincidentally previous colonial powers in the main. Don't know why, it just works like that.
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Founder member of NATO, permanent member of the Security Council politicians/military top brass aren't going to give up on that sense of entitlement easily.
Soldato
Well this isnt good cutting of cables.
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Houthis have caused their 1st fatalities it would seem, 2 killed aboard the Barbados flagged bulk carrier M/V True Confidence by anti-ship ballistic missile strike. Source: gCaptain article
Wonder if we’ll see an escalation in the response to these.
Wonder if we’ll see an escalation in the response to these.
I think the only fatality situation that would cause an escalation would be: someone important gets killed, Americans get killed, or there is a large civilian casualty event, such as sinking a cruise ship and a thousand die. Most of these are unlikely as important people and cruise ships know to stay away from the Red Sea
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Few more airstrikes is not an escalation though, its more of the same
How ever the urge to start a war in that twitter post seems to sit with a russian secret op to destroy internet cables. I wonder if this will be the last internet cable incident..
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Interesting comment from a Chinese official close to Xi - Islam will be subject to "Sinicization".. Ie become compatible with the Chinese government and Chinese in character..
So I can see a couple of threads on this:
a) Anti-islamic entities will indicate that Islam (in total) is now compromised by the Chinese government
b) Islamic groups will have to comply with Chinese demands to maintain funding.
c) Long-term the Chinese government does not allow religions to wield any power or exist as a threat to the Chinese government.. you could read this as "China has announced the death knoll on Islam" and a backlash ensues.
d) Islamic groups will feel that they are victimised by Chinese interests, putting Chinese within the countries at risk, possibly resulting in expulsions as retaliation.. certainly see a number of summons for the Chinese ambassadors in islamic countries to explain themselves.
e) China doesn't want oil from the largely islamic OPEC oil based regions (insulting their religion is probably not a good idea).. and thus will become reliant solely on Russia (I see Russia's Orthodox Church next on the shooting list of Sinicization (read between the lines on that coupled with the larger Chinese 'defence' spending
).
f) China are attempting to distance themselves from Islamic "terrorists" (specifically I think in terms of the Red Sea)
g) China's economy is being affected by the Red Sea issue.. and want a go to..
Now this high ranking official probably made a truss-ette mistake that will see a swift disappearance.
So I can see a couple of threads on this:
a) Anti-islamic entities will indicate that Islam (in total) is now compromised by the Chinese government
b) Islamic groups will have to comply with Chinese demands to maintain funding.
c) Long-term the Chinese government does not allow religions to wield any power or exist as a threat to the Chinese government.. you could read this as "China has announced the death knoll on Islam" and a backlash ensues.
d) Islamic groups will feel that they are victimised by Chinese interests, putting Chinese within the countries at risk, possibly resulting in expulsions as retaliation.. certainly see a number of summons for the Chinese ambassadors in islamic countries to explain themselves.
e) China doesn't want oil from the largely islamic OPEC oil based regions (insulting their religion is probably not a good idea).. and thus will become reliant solely on Russia (I see Russia's Orthodox Church next on the shooting list of Sinicization (read between the lines on that coupled with the larger Chinese 'defence' spending
).f) China are attempting to distance themselves from Islamic "terrorists" (specifically I think in terms of the Red Sea)
g) China's economy is being affected by the Red Sea issue.. and want a go to..
Now this high ranking official probably made a truss-ette mistake that will see a swift disappearance.
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Can you clarify what you mean by that?
The houthis are pretty well equipped. These are not Somali pirates, but an actual formed army.
Isn't that just part of thier "re-education" camps stratagey for thier Islamic citizens already?Interesting comment from a Chinese official close to Xi - Islam will be subject to "Sinicization".. Ie become compatible with the Chinese government and Chinese in character..
So I can see a couple of threads on this:
a) Anti-islamic entities will indicate that Islam (in total) is now compromised by the Chinese government
b) Islamic groups will have to comply with Chinese demands to maintain funding.
c) Long-term the Chinese government does not allow religions to wield any power or exist as a threat to the Chinese government.. you could read this as "China has announced the death knoll on Islam" and a backlash ensues.
d) Islamic groups will feel that they are victimised by Chinese interests, putting Chinese within the countries at risk, possibly resulting in expulsions as retaliation.. certainly see a number of summons for the Chinese ambassadors in islamic countries to explain themselves.
e) China doesn't want oil from the largely islamic OPEC oil based regions (insulting their religion is probably not a good idea).. and thus will become reliant solely on Russia (I see Russia's Orthodox Church next on the shooting list of Sinicization (read between the lines on that coupled with the larger Chinese 'defence' spending
f) China are attempting to distance themselves from Islamic "terrorists" (specifically I think in terms of the Red Sea)
g) China's economy is being affected by the Red Sea issue.. and want a go to..
Now this high ranking official probably made a truss-ette mistake that will see a swift disappearance.
Yes and it's not any specific Islamic focus as it's also applied to other religions. It's more where globally / sovereign boundaries it seems to suggest it's extend the same concept out of national boundaries.
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I believe the Houthis might have just taken things a step too far.
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