Relational issues...

Well both are illegal, so whats your point?

MDMA use isn't likely to put OTHERS at risk, speeding is, and plenty of people speed, even if just by 10 mph.

Is skydiving responsible? Much more ludicrous a risk to take than a few mg of MDMA.
 
Oh and do you also think a girl that wants to take drungs because her mates do is going to be responsible?

What makes you think she isn't?

Nanny state is nannying enough as it is, let people make their choices and deal with the consequences.
 
MDMA use isn't likely to put OTHERS at risk, speeding is, and plenty of people speed, even if just by 10 mph.

Is skydiving responsible? Much more ludicrous a risk to take than a few mg of MDMA.

Skydiving is a MUCH less risk than drugs. All it takes is one bad batch and thats it.

Just look at coke, how many times do you think that bag has been cut before it gets to the druggy? That 1oz bag has probably ended up being 5oz so everyone gets some money out of it, and you never know what people are cutting into it
 
That's fine, if not illegal.

So if the government suddenly made booze illegal, you'd accept it completely?

And if you believe that throwing yourself out of a plane with 2 ways to save your life is less risky than doing some MDMA, then you obviously don't know the statistics behind both activities.
 
If it was near the end of the month and was getting strapped for cash then no way would I drink. Plus I could just be a lightweight, but £40-£50 of MDMA would last me about 6 nights out I reckon, (haven't gotten to the end of my first bag yet though lols). Although won't be that many since I'm social and give it away to my mates as well :eek:

oooph! i'm :o
 
So if the government suddenly made booze illegal, you'd accept it completely?

Making alcohol illegal is a silly argument. America enacted prohibition and it was a fail.

You can't just decide to prohibit a substance that is part of an international culture. A substance you can walk into any supermarket/corner shop/cash and carry/off license and just buy in whatever quantities you please.

And you certainly can't compare it to drugs like MDMA, Cocaine, Heroin or whatever because they've never been legal substances that you can buy over a counter. It's apples and oranges.

You can link the use of petrol to deaths if you really want. Petrol is not something people HAVE to use. Why not just make an argument about prohibiting that by law too, it'd be just as ridiculous.
 
Don't be controlling.

/endthread

If she wants to do drugs and knows the risks, let her. If you can't handle that, break up with her. Done.
 
Don't be controlling.

/endthread

If she wants to do drugs and knows the risks, let her. If you can't handle that, break up with her. Done.

He's not telling her to not wear a short skirt, or not to hang around with someone he does not like.

Must be a lot of drug takers in this forum :o
 
I'm staying out of the actual "what's more dangerous" subject, however, your post is simply p/a numbers, and doesn't take into account numbers of drug users/sky divers, i.e. % of frequent users/divers that end in fatality.

About 350,000 people complete more than 3 million jumps in a typical year. The big question is always, "How dangerous is skydiving?" Each year, about 30 people die in parachuting accidents in the United States alone.

Now im sure there is a higher % of drug takers than 350k but not to balance out the death ratio, and seems as how drugs are illegal i cannot get stats for that :p
 

2700ish deaths in 2009, 33% of which were due to 'accidental use', so 891.

http://rds.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs09/hosb1209.pdf

500,000 people reported having used a Class A in the past month. 3.2 million within a year.

So lets say each of these 3.2 million only used once during that year (unlikely), then you have 891 deaths by accident per 3.2 million users, or a death rate of 0.00028.

Dropzone has 68 deaths from skydiving in 2009, 32,000 people jumping, and around 3 million jumps made.

That's 0.0021.

Skydiving is regulated, has health and safety requirements, and plenty of education on the activity.

Drug use has none of the above.
 
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