Religious Help!

iCraig said:
Wasn't that where he lived though?... and isn't Nazarene definition of Christian creed?

That would make me, Craig of Wolverhampton and Craig the agnostic.

But my surname is still different?

Did he have Mary's surname?
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His name in the Hebrew was Yeshua of Nazareth we normally use trades or parents names to arrive at surnames but there are plenty of people with the surname London.

So in our culture that would probably make you Craig Micktaker if you were born 2000 years ago in this country ;)
 
Zip said:
And well all you knobs that are just here saying how dumb Religeon is and how fake it is and how it causes all sorts of troubles just **** off, he asked how he convert to Christianity, He didnt ask for your opinions on what you think of religeon.
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That aint a very christian thing to say! :eek: God shall seek revenge on thee for calling us knobs and strike thee down with his mighty hammer. Which he borrowed from Thor.
 
DuffMan said:
Thank You. Could you please give me an insight on what would happen in the conversian? By the way i am entirely serious about this.
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They would probably just teach you a few things about the bible, give you a few important parts that you should read and they will talk to you about them.
Then if you allow them the will probably pray for for you :)
Then when you are wish, in your own time you can tell them if you feel ready that you want to be baptised and they will plan a time and date and you can get baptised :)

Nothing scary at all really and you will find most people should be really friendly and help you out along the way :)
 
Well, read the bible and maybe get some help with it, But ALL churches have elements of traditions some almost all traditions some just a few.

If I started believing in Christianity again then I wouldn't go to any church as there's far to much rubbish in them and wrong teachings. Just read the bible, have discussions with all sides of Christianity and see what you beilive not what one church throws down your neck.

And when you fully believe and understand religion, then you should get baptised, then you will need one church or the other.

Zip said:
e baptised and they will plan a time and date and you can get baptised :)

Nothing scary at all really and you will find most people should be really friendly and help you out along the way :)
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As long as you go along with what ever believes they have. One Important part of Christianity now adays is trying to take away all the rubbish all churchs have put in place in the old days and getting it back to pure faith.
 
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AcidHell2 said:
Well, read the bible and maybe get some help with it, But ALL churches have elements of traditions some almost all traditions some just a few.

If I started believing in Christianity again then I wouldn't go to any church as there's far to much rubbish in them and wrong teachings. Just read the bible, have discussions with all sides of Christianity and see what you beilive not what one church throws down your neck.

And when you fully believe and understand religion, then you should get baptised, then you will need one church or the other.
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I am Pentiocostal(Sp?) like i mentioned earlyer.

I have been to church in years but im still christian, Its good to go to Church but not manditory with us :)

Plus we go on from whats out the bible and dont have other rules like the No contriception rule that other churchs do.
 
Before you set about becoming a Christian I strongly advise you investigate some of the other religions.....how do you know there isn't one that is even more suited to you. Look at Taoism for a start, I think that will be an eye opener.
 
Zip said:
I am Pentiocostal(Sp?) like i mentioned earlyer.

I have been to church in years but im still christian, Its good to go to Church but not manditory with us :)

Plus we go on from whats out the bible and dont have other rules like the No contriception rule that other churchs do.
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\edit - I think you meant haven't in which case I agree churches are optional and I see them only as a ground to discuss and test your own believes which you have gained through reading the bible and then challenging them

I'm x-SDA even a church like that has many rubbish cultural things in it, but from the older generations, if you find a younger generation church there isn't so much, but unfortunately all churches have picked up various customs which almost become law aand certainly not out of the bible.
 
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AcidHell2 said:
One Important part of Christianity now adays is trying to take away all the rubbish all churchs have put in place in the old days and getting it back to pure faith.
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Tis what my church trys and does :)
 
AcidHell2 said:
\edit - I think you meant haven't in which case I agree churches are optional and I see them only as a ground to discuss and test your own believes which you have gained through reading the bible and then challenging them
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Yeah i meant havnt :p


For someone just Conveting i sugest he goes though to learn about it more and to see what its all like and about :)
 
Spawn said:
I dont know tbh, just the way he said i suppose...like i said earlier that if is serious about it then good luck to him. Theres not much difference between christianity and Islam if you take them literally etc..we both believe in one god but the major difference being is that islam doesnt believe that Jesus was God's son.
Perhaps im getting cynical but to me it seems like anything to do with islam in this forum always has a sinister meaning or side to it. But then like i said maybe im being cynical...who knows whats true and whats not...as the saying goes...on the intarnet you can be anyone you like or pretend to be etc etc.
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If he was converting to Islam I could see how it could be a BS just to wind up muslims but converting to Xtianity... hmm not so sure that would be so effective a way of winding muslims up.
He seems serious but I do find it odd to have a post count of 4 and ask a question like that.
 
Zip said:
Yeah i meant havnt :p


For someone just Conveting i sugest he goes though to learn about it more and to see what its all like and about :)
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Unfortunately I don't think that works though, because if you go to one particular church then you get one particular view.

It would be much better to study the bible and use something like wikepedia to find out about the many different churches and there customs.

Then reading books around the subject like Helen G white(by no means am I saying what she says is true) but It's like back ground reading it all helps to test your believes and gives you new ideas, or just discredit other ones.
 
DuffMan said:
Thank You. Could you please give me an insight on what would happen in the conversian? By the way i am entirely serious about this.
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No-one can really tell you what will happen in the conversion as it will happen inside you.
There are no fancy rituals or things you have to say. All you have to do to convert is to ask Jesus into your life, read the bible and act according to it's teachings. And they boil down to 2 things: Love God with all your heart, and Be good to your Neighbour.

If I started believing in Christianity again then I wouldn't go to any church as there's far to much rubbish in them and wrong teachings. Just read the bible, have discussions with all sides of Christianity and see what you beilive not what one church throws down your neck.
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Not every church, I have been to a few that were very sound in their teachings and belief. I do agree with the general point though, just as their are mosques with the Abu Hamza's of the world there are some very worrying churches. A church is a group of christians meeting for fellowship to encourage one another to learn from each others experiences in their faith and to study the bible. If you are not getting those things then you are either not in a church, are in the wrong one, or need to examine yourself to see why you are not able to partake in what it should be about.

Baptism is not conversion, although baptism can be a symbol of your conversion. Also be aware that there is baptism in water and baptism in the holy spirit which again can be two completely different things!
 
Beren said:
Not every church, I have been to a few that were very sound in their teachings and belief. I do agree with the general point though, just as their are mosques with the Abu Hamza's of the world there are some very worrying churches. A church is a group of christians meeting for fellowship to encourage one another to learn from each others experiences in their faith and to study the bible. If you are not getting those things then you are either not in a church, are in the wrong one, or need to examine yourself to see why you are not able to partake in what it should be about.
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But thats the thing even modern churches like pentecostal have there own believes which aren't taken from the bible or missreprasented from the bible, I have seen very few churches about 2 (actual churches not divisions), that have been free from *** rituals and everyone have to believe the same things. Both where perdomently made up of (80%+) under 30's.
 
AcidHell2 said:
But thats the thing even modern churches like pentecostal have there own believes which aren't taken from the bible or missreprasented from the bible, I have seen very few churches about 2 (actual churches not divisions), that have been free from *** rituals and everyone have to believe the same things. Both where perdomently made up of (80%+) under 30's.
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I generally don't get on that well with any church that puts a label on itself other than Christian. The churches I have been to if they had to put a label on themselves would probably call themselves 'Free Churches' in that they are stand alone groups of christians that occasionally invite speakers from other churches but predominantly do all their own teaching. The age group of the church I got on best at had about 150 people aged from babes in arms to people in their 90's. The Elders were in their 40's 50's and 60's. I guess the average age with all the kids would have been about 35.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by divisions.
 
Majago said:
I was under the impression that he was meaning denominations :)
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Ahh - then general rule of thumb, if it's got one - I probably wont like it.

That's religion not faith as far as I'm concerned, and I try and stay a long way away from religions. Not that I don't think it's possible that you will find some good ones with christians in mind you,
 
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