Removing/reducing nicotine in Cigarettes - good idea or nanny state gone to far?

[Lysander]

This. I'm getting so tired of this mentality that we should be told how to live.

It's not being told how to live, it's safeguarding people from their own weakness and susceptibility to social pressure which leads to something addictive and potentially deadly. There is nothing wrong with that.

People in support, they'll come for alcohol and fatty/sugary foods next and you wont have any defence.

Ah yes, the "slippery slope" fallacy. They came for A, next they will come for B, etc, so they should not come for A.

Because they will ban cigarettes, next they will ban custard creams. Not really the same thing.

 

[200sols]

Not really the same thing.

You're right, processed food diets and obesity are now killing us in greater numbers than smoking, the problem is worse.

 

[LabR@t]

They already have. Most "full fat" soft drinks are now a blend of aspartame chemicals and a reduced amount of sugar. Disappointed to find my fruit squash is also half aspartame chemicals too.

It's not the nicotine that's the problem, lol

 

[Lysander]

You're right, processed food diets and obesity are now killing us in greater numbers than smoking, the problem is worse.

So what's the problem with curbing access to those items then? A black market in Wagon Wheels?

 

[LabR@t]

It's not being told how to live, it's safeguarding people from their own weakness and susceptibility to social pressure which leads to something addictive and potentially deadly. There is nothing wrong with that.



Ah yes, the "slippery slope" fallacy. They came for A, next they will come for B, etc, so they should not come for A.

Because they will ban cigarettes, next they will ban custard creams. Not really the same thing.

But it is, they have already gone for sugary drinks what's next to higher a animal fats

 

[mid_gen]

Good

For the record, I enjoy a bit of alcohol and sugary, fatty food.....but I'm one of the minority in the UK that is able to enjoy such things without becoming a burden on the NHS by consuming them to excess. We need to tax them more to pay for all the fatties unfortunately.

 

[Lysander]

But it is, they have already gone for sugary drinks what's next to higher a animal fats

I don't see a problem with banning sugary drinks. Some of those things are absolutely awful. Have they banned Robinson's Fruit Shoots? They damn well should.

 

[dlockers]

It's not the nicotine that's the problem, lol

Nicotine is the addictive element. If you want to break the habit, you need to isolate and remove the addictive component. People don't just smoke because it is "pleasant" (as it is distinctly unpleasant).

 

[200sols]

So what's the problem with curbing access to those items then? A black market in Wagon Wheels?

Ah so the slippery slope does exist. Ban everything unhealthy?

 

[Stumble Bum]

Smoking is great these days because it's just a tax on the stupid.

 

[dlockers]

Smoking is great these days because it's just a tax on the stupid.

And occasionally, the sexy

 

[Haggisman]

And occasionally, the sexy

To be honest, smoking is about the least sexy thing someone can do. No bigger turn off than the stench of ashtray while you're "going about your business"

 

[Blackjack Davy]

They'll be reluctant to ban it here due to the fact it is or at least was a major tax revenue for the govt no idea about the US

 

[chroniclard]

They are going to ban custard creams? General strike now!

 

[dlockers]

To be honest, smoking is about the least sexy thing someone can do. No bigger turn off than the stench of ashtray while you're "going about your business"

I'll be rejected way before this becomes an issue

 

[explicit4u]

I think it's a good idea, the flavoured cig ban along with gradually moving to weaker and weaker cigs helped me stop smoking. Currently doing the same with vaping too, started at 12mg nic and i've worked my way down to 5mg.

I wish they were required to put nic levels on cigarettes too (and tar). It's a nightmare figuring out strengths unless you're familiar with the brand and know how their lines correlate with strength.

 

[LabR@t]

It's the selfish health freaks that are draining the NHS. The government should encourage smoking and drinking to raise taxes and reduce the overall cost to the NHS

 

[200sols]

I'll be rejected way before this becomes an issue

Not if you put your gucci gear on.

 

[R.P.L]

It's not being told how to live, it's safeguarding people from their own weakness and susceptibility to social pressure which leads to something addictive and potentially deadly. There is nothing wrong with that.

Potato potarto. Word it however you want, but I don't like it.

 

[Haggisman]

It's the selfish health freaks that are draining the NHS. The government should encourage smoking and drinking to raise taxes and reduce the overall cost to the NHS

Would save a nice chunk in pensions too