Well that's just silly given they couldn't be more different.
Resident Evil 7!!!
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I thought the same
Looks fantastic! I'm not likely to ever own a vr headset due to how expensive they are, but I hope this is still great without.
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This looks good.
Nah, majority of the people that complain about the games do so because 'its not Resident Evil'. Ok, those who can't get past the games actual flaws and gameplay issues are fine, but that's 10% of the people who hate on it. I'm tired of reading 'it's not Resident Evil!' as 'genuine' reasons to dislike it. Resident Evil has always been an action game, survival and horror were always very minor aspects. So how aren't 4,5,6 Resident Evil games? Boggles the mind.
Going from 90% action 10% surival-horror to 100% survival-horror and 0% action is a much bigger departure from what 'Resident Evil' is than 6 was.
I know the demo isn't neccesarily what the full game will be, but look at the Steam desciption...
I'll reserve my judgement, if it turns out to be like Resident Evil: Survivor it could be decent, but if it's Resident Outlast then I'm out, those games are insanely boring. I'm glad that genre exists for those who enjoy them, but that just isn't even close to what Resident Evil is, was, whatever. Pandering to the pseudo-RE fans that moan about the lack of survival which the games have barely ever had, and going full-blown Amnesia will kill the series.
Imagine if Dead Space 4 was a PT ripoff aswell, that'd be fun eh. Let's just turn every horror-themed action game into a hide-in-closet FPS.
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I'll reserve my judgement, if it turns out to be like Resident Evil: Survivor it could be decent, but if it's Resident Outlast then I'm out, those games are insanely boring. I'm glad that genre exists for those who enjoy them, but that just isn't even close to what Resident Evil is, was, whatever. Pandering to the pseudo-RE fans that moan about the lack of survival which the games have barely ever had, and going full-blown Amnesia will kill the series.
Imagine if Dead Space 4 was a PT ripoff aswell, that'd be fun eh. Let's just turn every horror-themed action game into a hide-in-closet FPS.
I kinda agree, this is not the formula I want for Resident Evil but it is what it is. If it really turns out to be butt-clenchingly scary, then I guess I won't mind.
To be honest, I'd be perfectly fine if they simply made a better, scarier RE4 with modern touches here and there, there aren't many games like that around anymore and I really enjoyed the oldschool mechanics of it all. Just not as bland as 5 and not as disjointed as 6.
On a side note: You don't hide in closets anywhere in PT and I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have been in the full game, had it not been cancelled
Silent Hills/PT was meant to be essentially a third person experience with first person segments in between and many traditional elements taken from its predecessors. Basically an even scarier, more modern Silent Hill. Was looking forward to that, damn you Konami
Show me the poll where you can claim this. Because by my anecdotal experience, I'd say that isn't true at all, and is just the opinion of some overdefensive folks that like the games where they dont actually listen to people's complaints with them because they'd rather try and dismiss away all the negativity by claiming people are just being irrational.
I kinda agree, this is not the formula I want for Resident Evil but it is what it is. If it really turns out to be butt-clenchingly scary, then I guess I won't mind.
To be honest, I'd be perfectly fine if they simply made a better, scarier RE4 with modern touches here and there, there aren't many games like that around anymore and I really enjoyed the oldschool mechanics of it all. Just not as bland as 5 and not as disjointed as 6.
On a side note: You don't hide in closets anywhere in PT and I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have been in the full game, had it not been cancelled
Have you seen Resident Evil 3.5? The one that got scrapped for 4 with all the freaky controlled dolls and stuff? That looked amazing, more of that in 7 please.
I know, I'm sure Silent Hills would have been amazing, but the ghost girl in RE7 doesn't bode well for the direction of the series. Hopefully Alma 2.0 is well thought out and not some supernatural crap, fingers crossed there's some prototype Veronica virus knocking about that gives her projection or invisibility or something... RE has never been about the supernatural.
Hide-in-closet was a reference to the pure survival games not Silent Hills btw.
Check out Death Stranding, that's got Kojima's bizzare magic like SH/PT and looks to be some sort of horror game. It's got Daryl in it too which is kinda cool.
I'm not some internet god that can draw that kind of attention and get everybodies opinions on paper dude lol. Just look at the neg reviews on Steam. You'll see what I mean.
I honestly don't know what you're going on about. The main reason I see people hating on RE6 is because of the heavy use of QTEs etc and it just being a bit crap. RE games haven't been proper RE games since 4, the reason RE4 doesn't get the same hate is because its actually a pretty decent game.
I have played all the RE games since RE1 on the PS1 and that was far more than just an action game. That's what set it apart in the first place for me that it wasn't just a plain old action game. It was about exploring and immersing yourself in a spooky mansion to find your friends and reading all the notes etc to try and find out what the hell is going on. With a constant sense of fear due to the survival horror mechanics. The mansion was highly detailed with the pre rendered backgrounds, unlike the copy and paste rooms in RE4 onwards, which immediately breaks immersion. I mean copy and pasted breakable pots everywhere?
. There was action of course, but the survival element was far more prevalent. You found very little ammo, so every shot counted. Then there was the save ribbons that stopped you from being able to save before going through every door, so you were actually hesitant to open a door in case there was a hunter in the room ready to decapitate you. It created a real sense of fear that you just don't get from RE4 onwards.
As for RE7, I watched a few playthroughs of the demo on Youtube last night and I'm not sure what to think tbh. I'm glad it wasn't just a trailer showing more of the same from RE6. But at the same time the demo just looked like an indie horror themed walking simulator. It didn't seem like anything to do with the Resident Evil series (inb4 Omaeka). Also really am not a fan of the instakill enemy from nowhere mechanic, like amnesia?. It's not very scary after the first time it happens and just breaks immersion when it keeps happening time and time again, if you were really dropped into this situation you would try to fight your way out of it. I just Hope the actual game has a mix of puzzles, action, horror and a heavy emphasis on the survival element. The first person mode could work really well if done right.
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Survival in Resident Evil? Oh dear...
Story driven action games from a fixed camera angle, ammo is never lacking unless you're blind, bosses were the only threat and that's what the magnum is in the games for. Can you clarify what exactly made RE survival? Even on hard, there's enough ammunition to destroy everything without breaking a sweat. Your characters are magically immune to the virus and can have their necks bitten 5000 times and be completely fine as long as you found one of the million herbs littered everywhere.
Honestly, the only reason I can imagine people thought they were survival games, was because they were most likely 5 years old when the games came out and didn't have a clue as to what they were doing. Go give them a bash now and see just how much 'survival' there is in them lol.
By this kind of logic, there are a lot of survival games out there. NPCs that can kill you fairly easily? Better go get your survival fix in Dark Souls, that in theory has to be the truest survival game out.
Think we definitely have a case of wishful remembrance or nostalgia here. Original Alone in the Dark was survival horror, as are Amnesia and a few other modern titles. Resident Evil (1, 2, 3, 0, Rebirth, CV, CVX, Outbreak etc.) and Silent Hill were action games with horror elements, although that kind of 'horror' only really worked back then because there was less exposure to that kind of thing. Horror is pretty much impossible to do these days unless you make the player incapable of doing anything except moving around in the first person and sticking a few dank ghostgirls in a couple of corners.
Eh? We actually have similar opinions on 7...
Story driven action games from a fixed camera angle, ammo is never lacking unless you're blind, bosses were the only threat and that's what the magnum is in the games for. Can you clarify what exactly made RE survival? Even on hard, there's enough ammunition to destroy everything without breaking a sweat. Your characters are magically immune to the virus and can have their necks bitten 5000 times and be completely fine as long as you found one of the million herbs littered everywhere.
Honestly, the only reason I can imagine people thought they were survival games, was because they were most likely 5 years old when the games came out and didn't have a clue as to what they were doing. Go give them a bash now and see just how much 'survival' there is in them lol.
By this kind of logic, there are a lot of survival games out there. NPCs that can kill you fairly easily? Better go get your survival fix in Dark Souls, that in theory has to be the truest survival game out.
Think we definitely have a case of wishful remembrance or nostalgia here. Original Alone in the Dark was survival horror, as are Amnesia and a few other modern titles. Resident Evil (1, 2, 3, 0, Rebirth, CV, CVX, Outbreak etc.) and Silent Hill were action games with horror elements, although that kind of 'horror' only really worked back then because there was less exposure to that kind of thing. Horror is pretty much impossible to do these days unless you make the player incapable of doing anything except moving around in the first person and sticking a few dank ghostgirls in a couple of corners.
Eh? We actually have similar opinions on 7...
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Have you seen Resident Evil 3.5? The one that got scrapped for 4 with all the freaky controlled dolls and stuff? That looked amazing, more of that in 7 please.
I know, I'm sure Silent Hills would have been amazing, but the ghost girl in RE7 doesn't bode well for the direction of the series. Hopefully Alma 2.0 is well thought out and not some supernatural crap, fingers crossed there's some prototype Veronica virus knocking about that gives her projection or invisibility or something... RE has never been about the supernatural.
Hide-in-closet was a reference to the pure survival games not Silent Hills btw.
Check out Death Stranding, that's got Kojima's bizzare magic like SH/PT and looks to be some sort of horror game. It's got Daryl in it too which is kinda cool.
Yeah, I've seen it, looked great!
Death Stranding seems very intriguing, just seen the trailer. Thanks for the heads up. So the collab with Reedus is still going to happen.
It's actually on of the most enigmatic teasers I've seen in recent years, don't even know what to make of it but Kojima rarely disappoints and he's definitely caught my attention with this one.
I can't be bothered wasting my time arguing with you. If you really believe that the early RE games were just action then nothing anyone says will change that, we'll just have to agree to disagree.
You seem like you're just arguing for the sake of it in both RE7 threads. You'd be better off on 4 chan where your dank memes and made up percentages will mean something.
You seem like you're just arguing for the sake of it in both RE7 threads. You'd be better off on 4 chan where your dank memes and made up percentages will mean something.
After how insane Metal Gear was at times, can't even imagine what Kojima is going to do with this. Hope you have a PS4.
Lol, you'd definitely be better off straying away from any form of contact with others across the internet if you're small mind can't handle somebody disagreeing with you, especially if your response is to throw your toys out of your crib and resort to insults.
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would have done fine, hope you can get those anger issues sorted out that led to your little outburst over somebody not agreeing with you on the internet.
After how insane Metal Gear was at times, can't even imagine what Kojima is going to do with this. Hope you have a PS4.
I don't but I'll probably be getting one for Yakuza 6 and Kiwami (and the rest of the exclusives as a bonus)
Besides, there are rumours it's supposed to be a PS4/PC title with timed exclusivity for PS4? Not sure.Meaning your claim is no better than anybody else's and is only based on your own limited anectodal experience. Same with me. Except I have the opposite experience, but perhaps it's just that I actually listen to what people are saying and dont just write their criticisms off as 'OMG you just dont like any change' and realize they have genuine reasons for disliking the game.
You only have to look at RE4 as a great example. Was a MASSIVE change to the RE formula. Plenty didn't like it at first, but ultimately, most could at least accept that it was an amazing game. A masterpiece, by many.
This shows that while some people were averse to the change, generally, the actual quality of the game ended up being far more impactful on the reception of the game. And that impact was that RE4 became pretty much the most highly rated/praised edition of the series yet.
So when you try and claim that people who dont like RE6 are just saying that because they dont like change, you've got very little ground to stand on. What people dont like are mediocre/bad games. Maybe it appealed to a certain group of action combat fans, that's great, but dont think that they represent what everybody should feel about it.
See, I was tempted to just stop reading at
and I'm glad I didn't as you wrote out a well thought out post otherwise. My original comment was not necessarily aimed every single person who dislikes the game, or anyone in this topic. Majority of the negative opinions I have read about 6 are literally; 'This isn't Resident Evil'... Those are your 'fedoras' I was talking about. Which they essentially are lol, band wagoners. Maybe they have issues with the game beyond that but they certainly don't let them be known.
Liking a game and immediately chastising anyone who doesn't who has legitimate gripes with it is ridiculous, I've never and would never do that. I probably wrote what I did in a poor manner that gave off that impression, or you jumped to the conclusion I was stanning the game which I wouldn't do. It has it's flaws but it's mercenary mode was my best RE experience yet, especially as Jake.
One thing I know the game lost after 4 was it's atmosphere. It would be nice to get that back, but the action (IMO) which is basically what the games have always been about at core drastically improved through 5 and 6. People always poked fun at the stand still and shoot mechanic the games always had for example, and losing that to the addition of other combat orientated mechanics was the best thing the series has done.
Back to RE7; if they keep it first person, actually make ammo scarce for once, add in a infection mechanic and don't hold back on the action, it could be amazing.
Now immediately jumping to conclusions as to what an unreleased game is going to be is obviously a bad move, but we have a demo, and Capcom's own game descriptions are making it sound like the demo is exactly what we'll get in the full game...
If it turns into an Amnesia where all you're capable of doing is running and hiding from every enemy with little to no combat, the series will have taken a much larger departure from what it did when 4 came about, and for me (and no doubt other RE fans) that will ruin it. There's no denying the quality and how well thought out survival-horrors are like Outlast and Amnesia, so it definitely isn't a case of the genre hasn't been done right yet, it's a case of if you don't scare easily, these games will offer you nothing, and RE has always offered me something with every title since I was a wee nipper.
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PC demo in early December 2016?
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Can sure whether to PS4 pro this or get it on the PC, if it's no good can flog it on the PS4.
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I'd prefer to buy it on PC, but PSVR man, wow. Kitchen nearly gave me a heart attack so lawd knows what the full game will be like.
Has to be a Pro with PSVR all the way; you know the old saying "in for a penny, in for a quivering, blubbering mass of shame on the floor"
Has to be a Pro with PSVR all the way; you know the old saying "in for a penny, in for a quivering, blubbering mass of shame on the floor"