Ring or Netatmo Security Camera? Anyone got one?

Marky said:
Yeah but then what are you going to do?

Sit there weeping over your phone as you watch some douchenozzle raid your house of all your goodies? :p

I suppose it's good if they're stupid enough to not mask up, but I hear Police barely do anything when it comes to house burglaries as it is. :(
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What would I do then? Infinitely more than if the system hadn't told me.

Immediately look at the notification and if I can see an unwanted visitor, set off house alarms, phone neighbours/police and get back home...

All that sounds far more preferential than nothing happening :) (And if we're away on holiday, broken windows going unnoticed for a week or two)
 
NeilFawcett said:
What would I do then? Infinitely more than if the system hadn't told me.

Immediately look at the notification and if I can see an unwanted visitor, set off house alarms, phone neighbours/police and get back home...

All that sounds far more preferential than nothing happening :) (And if we're away on holiday, broken windows going unnoticed for a week or two)
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A fair point well made :D
 
NeilFawcett said:
Interesting... And this is uploading all the time? You don't find this causes unnecessary lag on your internet? ie: Constant video traffic uploading 24/7?
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I've got an Amplifi wireless router so can see the upload traffic burst from the display on the front - the camera only uploads footage when it detects movement (or you're looking at a live feed). I assume this is so the server can process the person detection etc - it doesn't upload hours of blank footage. My Ring doorbell works in the same way, so I'd assume the Ring cameras would. I have 10Mb upload with Virgin - haven't seen any impact

NeilFawcett said:
And it seems you only get detection spots if you go for the more expensive plan? ie: 14day basic doesn't give you person detect and motion zones? So $10 a month for just one camera, or $18 for multiple! So not cheap!
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I've got 4 cameras dotted around so the multi camera plan looked okay compared to others and what it gives. It's not cheap, but seemed about right given the other options on the market with the same functionality as I was going to pay for 12 months up front.
 
ahar said:
I've got an Amplifi wireless router so can see the upload traffic burst from the display on the front - the camera only uploads footage when it detects movement (or you're looking at a live feed). I assume this is so the server can process the person detection etc - it doesn't upload hours of blank footage. My Ring doorbell works in the same way, so I'd assume the Ring cameras would. I have 10Mb upload with Virgin - haven't seen any impact



I've got 4 cameras dotted around so the multi camera plan looked okay compared to others and what it gives. It's not cheap, but seemed about right given the other options on the market with the same functionality as I was going to pay for 12 months up front.
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So these are the logitech ones?

How much are you paying a month?

What do you think of their "human recognition" feature to reduce false movement notifications?
 
NeilFawcett said:
Hey, I own a Xioami vacuum! Great bit of kit (It does it's weekly schedule clean on Thursdays) :)

The issue with a camera in a window for me?
1) Deterant - Not obviously to folks looking at the house.
2) Reports - The unit actually telling me at 11:00am in the morning there's someone walking up the drive when there's no one in. And me being able to react to that immediately.
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Slightly off topic, which vacuum have you got?
 
Does it do the map of the house? Would it do multiple rooms by itself? We're in a smallish dorma so not much space to do.

Camera wise, I always recommend Hikvision if you can get it. Then you can setup line-crossing and intrusion detection which are much less prone to false alarms than motion detection.
 
godinman said:
Does it do the map of the house? Would it do multiple rooms by itself? We're in a smallish dorma so not much space to do.
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Yes, it maps an entire "floor". Yes it would easily no multiple rooms, as long as there's not significant rises/drops involved. You can use the app to tell it to clean specific zones on the floor. eg: Just go and do the kitchen - Very useful!

Mine lives under the kids sofa, and cleans twice a week. You need to empty out its internal bin each time TBH. And check its brush aftern every few cleans.

Any more questions, ask on the dedicated thread? - https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...r-other-robot-vacuum-cleaner.18522031/page-18
 
NeilFawcett said:
So these are the logitech ones?

How much are you paying a month?

What do you think of their "human recognition" feature to reduce false movement notifications?
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Yes, the logitech ones - the brand they use is logicircle or logitech circle 2. I paid for 12 months in one go, so I think it was £120 or so.

The person recognition has been pretty good so far, probably only 3 or 4 false positives (telling me a person had been detected when it hadn't) in 6 months or so. My camera faces down the drive which is straight onto the road so it picked up people walking past the top of my driveway all the time before I set the activity zone to focus just on my driveway. I can imagine a frustration you may have with the software though is that you can't filter alerts just by people detected, just high and low activity. That means that I get an alert on my phone from 'high' activity whether or not a person is detected, but it does say on the alert whether it has detected a person so I ignore ones without that message.

They come with 30 days of the premium package free when you first install them - if you wanted to take a risk you could get one 2nd hand from ebay and try it out.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
yi (owned my xioami) also known as mi for daschcams make really cheap cameras £20 on amazon which use an sd card.

i have it in a window looking out the house. no need to buy more expensive outdoor version. yes it's not as clean but for £20 can't complain. it's a great bit of kit. i ended up buying a £40 version too for greater clarity. 720p is enough for up close (indoors) but 1080p is a must if you want to read car regy's. even at £40 can't complain.
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Hi

Had a look on Amazon there are a few YI Cams can you quote what model you are using Thanks
 
John1808 said:
Hi

Had a look on Amazon there are a few YI Cams can you quote what model you are using Thanks
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i have one of these

https://www.amazon.co.uk/YI-Camera-...=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1531636656&sr=1-2

however every 2 months they go on sale at 19-21 pound so i would set up an alert. currently double that.

i also have a 1080p version which moves in all directions

https://www.amazon.co.uk/YI-Wireles...=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1531636656&sr=1-3

and i have 3 of these

https://www.amazon.co.uk/YI-Wireles...hant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1531636656&sr=1-3&th=1

the 1080p version was around 38-40 pounds when it got reduced.

look on hotukdeals for last time they were reduced. they get reduced a lot.
 
Marvt74 said:
I've always thought indoor cameras feel a little creepy. Like you're spying on your family!
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Agreed. Remember being a teenager and bringing home a girl/boy for the evening when your parents are away, future generations won't be able to do this. With children moving out at older and older ages will they have to get a spare security pass from their parents when they are 35 and bringing home someone they met on Tinder?

I've thought about this a lot recently as I have two lads and I have Ring doorbells, 1 camera and 2 floodlight cameras (which I really do recommend for security purposes). However I have a potential moral dilemma in 10 years or so with smarthome automation if it continues at this pace, where will my kids have privacy to form relationships when they are of age?
 
Em3bbs said:
Agreed. Remember being a teenager and bringing home a girl/boy for the evening when your parents are away, future generations won't be able to do this.
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When I was young, I'd of had the intelligence to put something over the camera if I really needed to... But kids today.... :)
 
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Em3bbs said:
Agreed. Remember being a teenager and bringing home a girl/boy for the evening when your parents are away, future generations won't be able to do this. With children moving out at older and older ages will they have to get a spare security pass from their parents when they are 35 and bringing home someone they met on Tinder?

I've thought about this a lot recently as I have two lads and I have Ring doorbells, 1 camera and 2 floodlight cameras (which I really do recommend for security purposes). However I have a potential moral dilemma in 10 years or so with smarthome automation if it continues at this pace, where will my kids have privacy to form relationships when they are of age?
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Well I recorded an incident yesterday at just before 7am.

There was a group of 10 lads outside on the road with a few fights flaring up between them. 1 of them leathered a guy good and proper. so much so the guy was forced into my driveway/garden and he was knocked into my car causing damage. 3-4 of the individuals were carrying bottles of buckfast.

i woke up midway through the incident with it being 6-7am on a sunday. by then it was over and there was around 10 of them on the road. however my cameras caught everything.

my door panel is dented. the suspect has been identified.

now just imagine if something happened to your home when you were on holiday, etc. you would want internal cameras to record them and alert you.

John1808 said:
As if by magic £17 prime day!

Thanks

John
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see above - best £20 i've ever spent. i would get a few.

if anyone wants i can private message them a link to my recording. i won't be publicly publishing it as it's an ongoing investigation. so send me a trust.

it was recorded on the 720p camera. really good quality but i'm thinking of going 1080p now this has happened.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
Well I recorded an incident yesterday at just before 7am.

There was a group of 10 lads outside on the road with a few fights flaring up between them. 1 of them leathered a guy good and proper. so much so the guy was forced into my driveway/garden and he was knocked into my car causing damage. 3-4 of the individuals were carrying bottles of buckfast.

i woke up midway through the incident with it being 6-7am on a sunday. by then it was over and there was around 10 of them on the road. however my cameras caught everything.

my door panel is dented. the suspect has been identified.

now just imagine if something happened to your home when you were on holiday, etc. you would want internal cameras to record them and alert you.
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I'm not sure how your reply relates to my post you quoted. I have full coverage around my house with Ring floodlight cameras, stick up camera and doorbells along with motion sensors and Amazon Echo devices with cameras I can drop in on. That wasn't the point.
 
Em3bbs said:
I'm not sure how your reply relates to my post you quoted. I have full coverage around my house with Ring floodlight cameras, stick up camera and doorbells along with motion sensors and Amazon Echo devices with cameras I can drop in on. That wasn't the point.
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the point is you never know when something is going to happen. what if an incident occurred inside your home and you don't have any internal cameras. at least with internal cameras all the video evidence is there of exactly what happened.
 
I want to know where Ring's indoor camera options are.

They announced an indoor unit over 6-7 months ago - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKb96K5bIQI

I wonder if the Amazon buy out means a huge rethink?


If I had a choice I'd like to buy into Ring as I think with Amazon behind them it'll be a good direction to invest in. Plus their plans are cheap!
 
Psycho Sonny said:
the point is you never know when something is going to happen. what if an incident occurred inside your home and you don't have any internal cameras. at least with internal cameras all the video evidence is there of exactly what happened.
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Yes, that was my whole point. How to balance that kind of security along with the privacy of my kids when they are living at my house as young adults.
 
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