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Police have sufficient powers but they fear litigation more than being bricked and stoned.
All forces have contingency planning and while officers will be seconded away, cops on rest days can backfill. No real worries there.
Riots in Tottenham, London! (NO RACIST COMMENTS)
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Police have sufficient powers but they fear litigation more than being bricked and stoned.
All forces have contingency planning and while officers will be seconded away, cops on rest days can backfill. No real worries there.
They confirmed this morning that he did have a real gun. As for everything else we don't know, everything is just speculation and the Guardian bandwagoning every rumour that pops up.
Soldato
the sky news reporter soooooooooo fancies him!!!
Caporegime
(I realise the above is from BBC News)
Respect uz, when you're smashing the city up? **** off.
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of course he had a gun!
Theirs no way you'll get anything from NI.
But you are complicating things if you think a mob/riot mentality is all teh different, its not, in NI its not a group vs group thing a lot of the time, its a group vs the police. Because teh RUC/ PSNI took the fight to the rioters, not standing at one end of teh street doing what ever they wanted to do.
She did!
She kept pulling back her coat flap to him I'm sure shes naked underneath
It one of those flashing coats
Soldato
Do we honestly think we live in a Country where Police go around shooting innocent people all the time? To my knowledge it happend once recently when we had just had a major terriost attack.
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LBC are reporting that the attacks will be practically inevitable again tonight 
The police didn't actually say that, something which I pointed out very early in the thread, only to be meeted by people saying, "what else do you think happened". they criticised the bbc for not mentioning in headlines that he was shot after firing at the police, in order to make him look less innocent/more guilty.
If they didnt do any damage why did the government have to help them out?
Soldato
Sky says man in his 60's seriusly injured after clashing with rioters.
Soldato
6,000 i heard.
Geez, a couple of little riots and all of a sudden people lose their sense of humour.
Sorry, can't help you there. I'm only a 3rd generation Aussie, and my father was an English immigrant.
The weak Met response is surprising. For years we heard of increased police powers under Labour, and witnessed the brutality of the cops kicking nine kinds of hell out of peaceful climate change protesters (not to mention Ian Tomlinson, RIP). But now there's a real riot, they've proved about as useful as a chocolate fireguard.
The irony is palpable.
Knowing someone who works for the police in Birmingham, he blames 'ridiculous' re-structuring (read: cutting) and reduction in police kit, police numbers and police training which makes any proper response impossible.
For example, the Birmingham 'rapid' response team are now located in Warwick, which is bloody miles away! How is that smart restructuring ?
About 60% of the police are specials (ie: volunteer) in the area, which is fine for 'regular situations as Birmingham patrols of 3 are usually 1 proper police to 2 specials, but its just not enough for the kind of drama we saw last night.
If the London Met have had similar 'smart' restructuring then god knows how they have been coping so far
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It isn't surprising at all.
Have microscopes from the likes of Liberty shoved up and breed an air where police are far more fearful of litigation than they are of bricks and missiles.
Take away that cloud over them and let them get on with it and the Met and other forces can do the job.
You reap what you sow.
Plus the Gold Commander watching a live feed doesn't get a real sense of what is happening.
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