RIP Diesel?

Forget ur penis extension cars.

How does and will this affect vans ? I drive a van for my work, LWB. Obviously near all vans are diesel only - is it a case of horrific fuel and tax in future ? :( Im defo not in a position to buy a new van - 2nd hand vans are all diesel or they will be.
 
I'm not convinced it is RIP Diesel just yet. As a rough guess at as an average with JLR vehicles I'd say the market is around 80% diesel. A lot of that could be down to the feel of a diesel in a Land Rover, the Discovery for example doesn't have a good range of petrol engines, and is far nicer to drive than the petrol equivalent - TDV6 being the nicest, for the Range Rover the 4.4 TDV8 is fantastic. Perhaps this is down to the gearing where the diesel torque handles the bulk of the car better, certainly get a move on when needed and is an easier and as such nicer car to drive.

As for the Jag side of things petrol makes up around 30% of the market and these are generally the F-Type, the XF, XJ, etc are almost always diesel.

I can only imagine this trend will change if/when diesel is taxed more heavily, either at the pump or with road fund licence changes.
 
I can’t see biodiesel being any less bad than the normal stuff. It’s the particulates that are the issue.
 
Just bought a petrol car, because I do a lot of short journeys I didn't want diesel, have been searching for months, every dealer had loads of diesels for sale which just seemed to sit there as their prices kept being reduced, nobody wants them, what they will do with them in the end I don't know
 
Diesel still has a place, people who do loads of motorway miles (I get between 70 and 80 mpg at a steady motorway pace), HGV and vans will all still require diesel, EV is not going to replace diesel in vans and HGV for a while as the battery technology isn't there yet (can't see a distribution firm being happy with their driver having to have a break every 200 miles while he charges his van/HGV).

It will get there eventually but at the moment there isn't a replacement for diesel in certain usage.
 
After staunchly refusing to ever own a diesel car I was gifted a 2005 Peugeot 206 diesel at the weekend. It's actually a fairly decent car.
 
skyripper said:
Amazing amount of people are still buying diesel for their 6000 miles a year involving mostly inner city, shopping and schoolruns!
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Amazing the sort of ridiculous little diesel engined cars that exist too. A diesel Fiat PANDA drove past me in Brighton the other day dagdagdagging along, and I was left wondering what on earth would posses you to buy a diesel Panda... I thought they all ran on bamboo shoots.

Hades said:
After staunchly refusing to ever own a diesel car I was gifted a 2005 Peugeot 206 diesel at the weekend. It's actually a fairly decent car.
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Peugeot 206, decent, does not compute...
 
That's fine. I'll carry on using my free 2000's diesel peugeot. Cheap insurance. Cheap(ish) tax. Fairly efficient for long distance journeys. No DPF to fail. Comfy seats. It's great for budget motoring and means I can get something horrendously inefficient as another car. It's never going to set the world on fire but I can leave it anywhere and not worry about it. Door dings? Who cares :)

It's great shedding but actually cost less than a shed :)
 
Been trying to weigh up if a diesel would be right for me, I do 25 miles to work, mix of main roads and 30's in a roughly 60/40% split.
 
Maundie said:
and HGV for a while as the battery technology isn't there yet (can't see a distribution firm being happy with their driver having to have a break every 200 miles while he charges his van/HGV).
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Remind me how long they are legally able to drive without taking a break under present rules?
 
Hades said:
That's fine. I'll carry on using my free 2000's diesel peugeot
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please - won't someone think of the children


for the bottom line on diesel/petrol calculation where can you find the truth.
(re-posting) my fleetnews attempt which seems to show evens(better petrol residual offsetting 2p/mile deficit) for a mondeo example
... if the site works correctly on free access ? alternatives ?

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Jamauk said:
I'm not convinced it is RIP Diesel just yet. As a rough guess at as an average with JLR vehicles
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jlr obviously cited diesel demise as one of the redundancy factors
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jpaul said:
please - won't someone think of the children


for the bottom line on diesel/petrol calculation where can you find the truth.
(re-posting) my fleetnews attempt which seems to show evens(better petrol residual offsetting 2p/mile deficit) for a mondeo example
... if the site works correctly on free access ? alternatives ?

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Errr?

The petrol has a higher residual because its a higher spec car which costs more new. Infact from your figures the petrol variant you've shown loses more money.

For this to be a useful comparison you need to pick the same specification car - not a Zetec versus a Titanium.
 
[TW]Fox said:
Errr?
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the point is the costs are very similar ...BUT can the site be believed ? let's have some objectivity in this discussion

edit: difficult to find exact models but ~evens again ... not the big differences i expected on only 200 miles a week.

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