RIP Diesel?

[datalol-jack]

Nah don’t be silly. When I buy a TT or an MX5 it’s time to start worrying

Drift King!

 

[tom_e]

I hope this wasn't a fluke and diesel is actually dying, we can't have crap bikers blaming diesel all the time for their offs, can we?

It's fine we can still blame the wagons sloshing it all over roundabouts.

 

[Jez]

I'd still choose my diesel over a petrol right now.
Euro6 so pretty clean, £30 a year VED, i do about 20k a year. I average 61mpg and don't have a light foot, car about 230bhp.

Average of 61mpg on a 230hp diesel? Which engine is that? My Diesel is a bit more powerful than that, but gets nothing like that economy.

 

[B1scu1T]

I have a 2.0 Volvo Euro 6 and it gets ~60mpg motorway miles with 190bhp and I pay 0 emissions tax or have any concern about the ULEZ... so I would say there is some life in Diesel

 

[dirtychinchilla]

Diesel produces pollutant particulates that are extremely damaging to humans. They are tiny (PM1) and get right down into the depths of your lungs. The impact is less for adults, as the lungs are fully developed, but for children this can cause serious damage. That's why diesel should be phased out.

 

[SDK^]

I recently switched from petrol to diesel - the MPG'z win

 

[kinobestew123]

In years to come, there will be a similar thread to this lolling at how everyone thought electric cars were good for the environment.

 

[Dyson]

Because my car drinks fuel and I'd save money in the long run by changing. I did 1000 miles last weekend and spend about £170 on fuel

That doesn’t actually sound too bad as it is - much better than I achieve in my CRV. That’s got to be breaking 30 mpg isn’t it?

 

[Firestar_3x]

In years to come, there will be a similar thread to this lolling at how everyone thought electric cars were good for the environment.

Yes, why drive when you can teleport.

 

[Dangerous Dave]

It's not just diesels that produce small particulates, direct injection petrols do aswell and that is why they now have particulate filters.

Modern petrol's are also pretty good on fuel I was surprised to get 55mpg out of my wife's 2L turbo petrol Mini on the journey back from picking it up. I wasn't even trying just cruise control at the speed limit and that included a couple of lets see how fast I can get it down the slip road.

 

[kinobestew123]

Yes, why drive when you can teleport.

Teleportation will be a waste of energy too. For the ultimate energy saving travel, just do it virtually wearing VR goggles.

 

[stockhausen]

RIP Diesel

At last - some good news

Incidentally, shouldn't this joke be in some "Motors" sub-forum?

 

[robj20]

Average of 61mpg on a 230hp diesel? Which engine is that? My Diesel is a bit more powerful than that, but gets nothing like that economy.

Ford, Mondeo Mk5.

 

[AHarvey]

Diesel has got to die sooner rather than later - No one in their right mind should even be considering a Diesel car if buying new today.

Cities are beginning to tax you harder for driving Diesel cars - And that will only be pushed more and more.

My mate's just bought a brand new merc diesel, £40k+. It looks ok but still can't outrun my 13-year-old golf Not the way i'd have spent my money but everyone's different.

 

[Zatoichi.uK]

I'm kind of surprised tax on petrol cars is still comparatively high compared to diesels. I've been looking at 1.4/1.5 petrols which are generally £120 pa. Seems steep for something that is being pushed.

 

[Jez]

Ford, Mondeo Mk5.

The Ford website only lists a little 2.0 4cyl engine in this car available with a maximum of 180ps?

 

[Resident]

The government suddenly decided after 17 years that Diesels are actually bad for the environment, having spent the best part of 2 decades trying to get people to switch to them.

They started telling people that diesel was great right when the car industry was in one of it's biggest sales slumps.

The car industry is now in another sales slump because modern diesels go forever so now we're told diesels are bad and we should buy new petrol/electric.

Give it 15 years, after the rise of HFC powered cars and they'll tell everyone that hybrid/plug-in electric cars are terrible too....

 

[robj20]

The Ford website only lists a little 2.0 4cyl engine in this car available with a maximum of 180ps?

Remapped.
They're onto the mk5.5 now as well so the bi-turbo model has gone. That was 200+.

 

[Dangerous Dave]

I'm kind of surprised tax on petrol cars is still comparatively high compared to diesels. I've been looking at 1.4/1.5 petrols which are generally £120 pa. Seems steep for something that is being pushed.

Pricing has changed last year you do pay £10 more for a diesel in the first year tax after that every car is £145 plus £320 if the list price is over 40k for the first 5 years.

New Euro 6 diesels with adblue are very clean but the bad press has done it's damage on diesels.

 

[Scania]

Diesel is here for a good while yet, in both cars and commercial vehicles, as for commercials, no sign yet of a viable electric truck (never mind the infrastructure to support one), trucks are remarkably efficient anyway these days and they have particulate filters and additives to keep emissions down to those of a VW Polo of not too far back, a lot of the emissions tech filters down to cars, trucks had DPF’s and used fuel additives long before mainstream cars did.

This is my MPG for today, 10.82,you may think that’s poor but considering the trucks weight (gross around 36tons today) it’s height and general aerodynamic properties of a small building it’s actually pretty good relative to cars I’d say.

That wasn’t predominantly a motorway run either, Stoke down to Northampton then back up to Ashbourne in Derbyshire then across country to Stoke on the A52, a very hilly route, on a flatter run sticking to motorways and dual carriageways it achieves a lot better.