Rise of the Tomb Raider coming to PC in early 2016

Seanspeed said:
It reduces the chances of some issue somewhere, but most people are just fine with standard upgrading nowadays. Doing a clean install is extra hassle for potentially no actual reward.
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Then people blame Windows 10 if anything is wrong then roll back to the previous OS or do a clean install anyway.

Prevention is better than cure :)
 
Seanspeed said:
It reduces the chances of some issue somewhere, but most people are just fine with standard upgrading nowadays. Doing a clean install is extra hassle for potentially no actual reward.
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Microsoft seem to be incapable of understanding this.

People just want to upgrade and have their programs work as they did pre-upgrade.
 
Seanspeed said:
It reduces the chances of some issue somewhere, but most people are just fine with standard upgrading nowadays. Doing a clean install is extra hassle for potentially no actual reward.
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Clean install all the way for me, I don't want no crap left behind by upgrading, windows.old etc, I know it can be removed etc but I personally prefer it to be from a fresh install.

I fail to see the extra hassle part of it though, it's simple enough to keep your data on a separate drive and just use a SSD or similar as a boot drive for Windows. That's how I do it anyhow.

For me it's the other way round it's more hassle having a upgrade over a clean install because of the issues I stated, that's a good enough reward for me. I do understand however some users are not that technically minded and just want their programs and data the way it was before upgrading, all depends on the end user.
 
Terminal_Boy said:
Microsoft seem to be incapable of understanding this.

People just want to upgrade and have their programs work as they did pre-upgrade.
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Incapable of understanding what? I did an in-place upgrade, everything works mostly as it should. Realistically it's going to be a hugely complex task making sure that settings, programs and files from one OS are carried over into another.
 
Terminal_Boy said:
Microsoft seem to be incapable of understanding this.

People just want to upgrade and have their programs work as they did pre-upgrade.
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They do understand it. That's why upgrading without a clean install is usually quite safe. Pretty incredible undertaking given the scale of changes they make and complexity involved.
 
SonniLombardi said:
Clean install all the way for me, I don't want no crap left behind by upgrading, windows.old etc, I know it can be removed etc but I personally prefer it to be from a fresh install.

I fail to see the extra hassle part of it though, it's simple enough to keep your data on a separate drive and just use a SSD or similar as a boot drive for Windows. That's how I do it anyhow.

For me it's the other way round it's more hassle having a upgrade over a clean install because of the issues I stated, that's a good enough reward for me. I do understand however some users are not that technically minded and just want their programs and data the way it was before upgrading, all depends on the end user.
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Reinstalling and reconfiguring things after a clean install is definitely a hassle. For me, it FAR outweighs any little niggles I get from doing a standard upgrade(which I've had none of with W10).

There's also plenty of potential conflicts that happen even with a clean install. Many issues people get during upgrading could well have occurred even if they went through the extra trouble of a clean install. I know 'try a clean install' is an often given piece of advice if somebody is having trouble, and sometimes it works, but I remember I did a clean install of W7 on a new computer, had a couple issues and had to do another clean install where it mysteriously cleared up. Stuff is just a bit funky sometimes.
 
Seanspeed said:
They do understand it. That's why upgrading without a clean install is usually quite safe. Pretty incredible undertaking given the scale of changes they make and complexity involved.
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Yup the in place upgrade has always worked for me since XP>Vista>7>10.

It's the new security features MS implemented in 10 that are just a severe annoyance. because there's no simple off switch. And workarounds result in other things breaking.

DX12 appears to bring about most of the benefits to AMD users (CPU offload) so I'll just soldier on with DX11 on 7 until then with my nVidia cards.
 
£22.41 on Kinguin right now for the STEAM key plus Quidco's 5% cashback.
 
mrk said:
Yup the in place upgrade has always worked for me since XP>Vista>7>10.

It's the new security features MS implemented in 10 that are just a severe annoyance. because there's no simple off switch. And workarounds result in other things breaking.

DX12 appears to bring about most of the benefits to AMD users (CPU offload) so I'll just soldier on with DX11 on 7 until then with my nVidia cards.
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There are so many things in the OS that needs a simple off switch for power users - I can see why some of the features are in place for mainstream users but its made my life completely miserable trying to use a tablet with Windows 10 installed - somehow Windows 8 on my older tablet suddenly feels like a sophisticated implementation in comparison :( how the **** did that happen.

I could only laugh when trying to shutdown my tablet (nowhere near a charger) to preserve the last bit of battery for it to pop up with "Windows is installing updates... do not switch off your PC" which then took about 20 minutes and used up all the remaining battery (battery died before it was finished)...

EDIT: On the flipside as I'm not just hating for the sake of hating as some will probably think... they have been slowly adding back in features they've been resistant about implementing - the ability to have the extra tile in the start menu finally makes it functionally superior to Windows 7 for my uses - shame it still looks incredibly ugly and while not affecting my use ridiculously lacking in flexibility, etc. i.e. still no efficient group management.
 
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It could be, the last one was good and I've held off the XBone version to get this one so was always going to be a purchase for me. But for £20 I'll wait for a patch, R6 shot up in price after release.
 
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Same here

Hopefully Nixxes are doing it, as the first one was great on PC. I don't even remember needing patches or anything.

I have an Xbox One, but to be honest i'd rather wait and play it 2160p @ 60fps.
 
Well the XB1 version looks great at 1080P and that was Youtube footage I saw. PC version will be glorious. Best platform :p
 
£20 from Kinguin, well worth the buy. I watched a few episodes of a playthrough on youtube, and it looks brilliant. More of the same as the last one, but more refined.
 
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