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I get up to about 25mph at most, but as I wear glasses I don't seem to have the problem with my eyes tearing up (or insects flying into my eyes).

Ergh, I hate this. I wear glasses, but I was going pretty fast on some downhills the other day and I still had insects hitting my face and ending their lives on my t-shirt (never wearing a white one while cycling again...) which was really irritating. I'm tempted to wear a buff or something, or at least keep one handy if it becomes a problem on longer rides - I still have one that I used in the winter for my commute, and it kept my neck and lower face warm, but breathing caused my glasses to fog up.

Somehow I missed this when you posted it; it looks like a fantastic bike for the money! I think you did really well to get a proper tourer for that amount. It's especially nice to see that it has sensible gearing. A lot of supposed "touring bikes" come with setups like 50/39/30 up front and 11-25 at the back. This gives a low of ~30 gear inches depending on wheels/tyres, which is just daft. Have you got your first outing planned yet?

Indeed, I kept an eye on the gearing before buying it as I figure a tourer is going to have to put up with some nasty hills from time to time.

I have had a few short outings (sub 20 miles) and the bike performed really well, but the state of the roads and footpaths in this country is atrocious. You really notice the cracks and potholes a lot more when cycling! I am going to plan a longer route, but I want to slowly build it up so I might go for a 30 miler, then 40, 50 etc.

I'm currently waiting on a Brooks B17 saddle (not really getting on with this one, I think it's a Selle San Marco Rolls saddle) and a few other bits. I still need some panniers and a bit of clothing too. I'm glad I got a good deal on the bike otherwise all this would be costing a fortune on top of it...

I also have a goal to aim for because my family are visiting some relatives near Exeter in the summer, and I'm hoping to ride there. It is about 300 miles away and I'd love to be able to do that in 4 days, so I need to get training! I'll probably be credit card touring with 2 rear panniers and a barbag as I'm not sure if I want to make the jump to camping just yet!

Actually, I'm going to use this opportunity to ask a 'noob' question about gearing. At the moment I've been keeping my crankset on the middle cog and just going up and down on the rear and this works okay. The guy who I bought it from suggested this approach to start with.

My question is...when do I switch to the smaller/bigger cogs on the crank? It's complicated to explain this, but if I'm on the flats, I tend to be in the highest rear gear. As the hill gets steeper, I lower my gear so that I can maintain a similar cadence on the uphill. I'm not sure if this is the right approach, but it works okay, and with the exception of one or two nasty hills in my area, I have enough gears to make it up to the top without dismounting.

If I wait until I'm on my lowest rear gear and then go to the small cog on the crank, I just spin out because I'm too low. Should I use the middle cog for flats, then shift to the smaller one when I expect a hill and the larger one when expecting downhills? I know a lot of this might come down to personal preference, but I'm sure you guys have a lot more experience with this.

In case anyone missed it earlier, I have 26/36/48 in the front and 11-32 in the rear.

Also, what do people think of the Sustrans routes? I've heard good and bad things about them, but I also need some maps for SE/S/SW England... can anyone point me in the right direction?
 
Unfortunately I can't use the map I purchased in Mapsource, so that isn't an option. I'll try mapping out a course on bikehike and checking it on the 605 before I set out next time.

I had a look at the SRAM groupsets, they do not do triple cranksets and the largest range they offer on their cassettes is 11-32. I'm a complete novice when it comes to knowing what you can mix and match, so I have no idea what I can use together, but it doesn't look as though SRAM's offerings will give me the range I want. Thanks for the suggestion though 6thElement, I do appreciate it :)

Sram do this http://www.wiggle.co.uk/sram-pg1050-10-speed-cassette which comes in a 12-36. Part of the new WiFli thing(wider range,faster? lighter? or something).

They only offer apex in a double or a compact sadly....so you'd be looking at sora/tiagra for a triple + shimano STIs :(

Edit: Just had a thought

You could buy an SLX 10 speed rear mech, 11-36 or 11-34 slx cassette(hg81 - 10) + chain with a 105 chainset (FC-5703: 50-39-30T) and 105 5703 stis.

That would give you a massive range of gears.

The sram 11-32 cassette would give more suitable jumps at the rear though.
Apex 11-32 = 11, 12, 13, 15, 17, 19, 22, 25, 28, 32
SLX 11-32 = 11-12-14-16-18-20-22-25-28-32
SLX 11-34 = 11-13-15-17-19-21-23-26-30-34
SLX 11-36 = 11-13-15-17-19-21-24-28-32-36.
 
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Oops, I'd forgotten that the SRAM brifters are only doubles, thanks for the correction Jonny.

Great ride today, a solo 115miles, 10000ft of climbing, still plenty of pop in my legs when I was in the last couple of miles from home too.

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http://connect.garmin.com/activity/81317005
 
Oops, I'd forgotten that the SRAM brifters are only doubles, thanks for the correction Jonny.

Great ride today, a solo 115miles, 10000ft of climbing, still plenty of pop in my legs when I was in the last couple of miles from home too.

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http://connect.garmin.com/activity/81317005
Well that's me utterly humbled; I've only just recovered from my 70 mile "ordeal" on Friday. Awesome work! :)

Edit: Just had a thought

You could buy an SLX 10 speed rear mech, 11-36 or 11-34 slx cassette(hg81 - 10) + chain with a 105 chainset (FC-5703: 50-39-30T) and 105 5703 stis.

That would give you a massive range of gears.

The sram 11-32 cassette would give more suitable jumps at the rear though.
Apex 11-32 = 11, 12, 13, 15, 17, 19, 22, 25, 28, 32
SLX 11-32 = 11-12-14-16-18-20-22-25-28-32
SLX 11-34 = 11-13-15-17-19-21-23-26-30-34
SLX 11-36 = 11-13-15-17-19-21-24-28-32-36.

Thanks Jonny ///M, that looks much more like what I'm after. I dumped the numbers into the late Sheldon Brown's gear calculator, and with 700x25c the 105 triple + SLX 11-36 gives a huge range; 22 to 120 gear inches. I was looking at the Deore XT chainset (44-32-22T) with a matching cassette (11-34) which gives 17 to 105 gear inches, but I probably don't need to go that low. I assume the 105 STi lever will shift the SLX mech without any problems?
 
Great ride today, a solo 115miles, 10000ft of climbing, still plenty of pop in my legs when I was in the last couple of miles from home too.

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http://connect.garmin.com/activity/81317005

Fair climb around the 50 mile mark... IIRC (going by the map), you have posted a ride with that same climb where you did it about 4-5 times as a circuit?

Is that on your "Great Divide" bike?
 
Do any of you guys have trouble with your Garmin HRM? in the first 10 minutes I’m getting funny readings. Spikes of up to 250 bpm. It settles down and seems to work correctly throughout the ride.
I have read that it’s a static build up created by the cycling top fluttering. I have no idea how to stop it. Well... I can hold my chest strap to stop the cycling top fluttering but doesn’t solve the problem.
Any ideas?

I have changed the battery to see if it was that casuing it. no change :(
 
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... I dumped the numbers into the late Sheldon Brown's gear calculator, and with 700x25c the...
If you're planning on touring longer distances, consider fatter tyres. Better puncture protection and a more comfortable ride, Schwalbe Marathon Plus are very popular IIRC.

Richie, I was on my road bike today, got to mix it up :) I've a camping weekender next weekend, where I'll be on that bike with 100mile routes with close to that much climbing again planned for the Saturday and Sunday. Yes I've posted that climb before when I did the 5 repeats up it, from my log it looks like I was 6 minutes faster going up on the road bike :D

I get the garmin HR spikes sometimes when the jersey is flapping at the start of a ride, annoying because you can't edit them out easily...
 
Well that's me utterly humbled; I've only just recovered from my 70 mile "ordeal" on Friday. Awesome work! :)



Thanks Jonny ///M, that looks much more like what I'm after. I dumped the numbers into the late Sheldon Brown's gear calculator, and with 700x25c the 105 triple + SLX 11-36 gives a huge range; 22 to 120 gear inches. I was looking at the Deore XT chainset (44-32-22T) with a matching cassette (11-34) which gives 17 to 105 gear inches, but I probably don't need to go that low. I assume the 105 STi lever will shift the SLX mech without any problems?

From what I've read and did in the past it should work fine. A lot of guys have deore mechs on their winter bikes and that works no problem aswell.
 
If I wait until I'm on my lowest rear gear and then go to the small cog on the crank, I just spin out because I'm too low. Should I use the middle cog for flats, then shift to the smaller one when I expect a hill and the larger one when expecting downhills? I know a lot of this might come down to personal preference, but I'm sure you guys have a lot more experience with this.
My personal approach to this is to try to use the gears in the middle of the cassette as much as possible, and so I will shift down to the smaller cog at the front and then shift up a couple of gears on the cassette. I find it better to do this early in the climb, otherwise you get the unpleasant spinning out that you mention. I have no idea if this is the most efficient way of tackling it or not; I don't often ride a bike with "normal" gears, so it's not something I tend to care about.

Also, what do people think of the Sustrans routes? I've heard good and bad things about them, but I also need some maps for SE/S/SW England... can anyone point me in the right direction?
I wanted the map for their National Route 4, sadly they didn't have it for sale in their shop the last time I looked. I'm not going to bother now, I'll use my GPS instead.
 
Comedy over the weekend. Spent pretty much most of the weekend sat on a saddle riding between the local car dealerships looking for a new car. For some odd reason the Peugeot dealer had bike racks at the front. Good for us, but unexpected at a car dealer nonetheless. We'd literally just locked the bikes when the dealer came running out, shook my hand and thanked me for using them. Apparently the council had made them put them in and we were the first people who had ever used them :D
 
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