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RE: weight with deep(er) section rims. (Heaviest set came 3rd with the lightest coming 9th). Something to consider but it's not the be & all.

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(Granted not the most reliable study from Bike Radar but plenty of others come to the same conclusion)
 
What about the wiggle own brand ones? I seem to remember they were about 1500g for the 30-35mm ones. Was tempted as an upgrade over the standard Giant wheels I have.
 
Chinese Carbon Clinchers. Onto my 3rd set. 0 issues so far.

Had call this morning to say insurance company of the guy that hit me are going to pay out as a good will gesture for my phone and helmet. Isn't that nice of them.
 
SDK^ said:
I've had the Stages PM just over 2 years now.
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Ahhh, just (wrongly) assumed it was a new one! Sorry, couldn't remember who had one! ;)
lordrobs said:
It was the 35C that came on my winter bike. I think I'll try them at a slightly lower pressure. I keep forgetting that I'm 20 pounds lighter now so I need to adjust my tyre pressures to suit! The tread is a bit less aggressive than it appears on the photo and thankfully doesn't feel like a treaded tyre on smooth tarmac.
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After reading a few of the reviews I think I'm after something with a bigger tread, I want to try them on some trails so there'll certainly be some mud around which they are not ideal for... They read as more suited to gravel/grass/dry trails.
Maxeh said:
Now I have a new bike (BennyC's old Propel Advanced 1) I'm looking at potentially upgrading the wheels to something a bit better.

The standards are the 30mm Giant P-A2 Aero's and ~1770g I believe.
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Much of it depends on what you're riding - if riding on flat terrain and outright speed/aero is your main concern (TT'ing/road racing) then don't let weight decide, let depth and aerodynamics decide. Although there's not many places in the UK flat enough for just going as deep as possible (60mm!?) without having a tricky time in the crosswinds those areas are largely exposed to. If you're after more of a mixed/rolling terrain set (like much of the UK) then you're after a combination, but at a low budget you're better looking at lightness with some depth as an alternative to the P-A2's (which are deep and heavy). I feel you'll just have more contrast to what you'll have already so not wasting money...

Aero : Weight : Price. Lots of people traditionally say to choose 2 of those factors at the expense of the 3rd. Thankfully modern wheelsets are very well balanced and not quite the compromise traditional wheelsets used to suffer from. You'll find lots of info on most with numerous reviews with real world tests. Use the internet to your advantage 'hedge your bets' and come up with a shortlist of 2-3 (minimum) which review well meeting your real world criteria and then hunt around for deals on them.

The Vision wheelset linked are marginally heavier with being only marginally deeper than the Giants. I wouldn't say worth it unless you were replacing/selling the Giant wheelset rather than keeping it (and can get a good price for it). The Vision rims are wider so would work out more comfortable (as Giant off the shelf tend to be more traditional narrower widths). I've had painful experiences with Giant wheelsets and in my opinion they're not worth spending too much time on if you kept them and have issues in future (the Vision 35's hardly being 'expensive' as a replacement). Even with that view I personally wouldn't replace them from day 1 as you'll probably struggle to sell for decent enough value (being a used wheelset) to cover a large enough lump of the Visions.

http://www.220triathlon.com/gear/gear-guides/10-of-the-best-bike-race-wheels/9843.html
http://www.cyclist.co.uk/in-depth/1467/aero-rims-vs-lightweight-rims
http://www.cyclist.co.uk/buying-guides/954/a-buyers-guide-to-road-bike-wheels
http://www.cyclist.co.uk/reviews/763/best-cheap-bike-wheels

These 32mm sub 1500g Cosines seem like a great option?

TL;DR : Keep the Giants unless you can get a good sell price, if you can, then buy the Visions. With an aero set already (Giant/Vision) look for a lighter set with some marginal aero properties as a replacement, you'll notice more difference on rolling terrain and start/stop kinda riding. To be honest with your fairly low budget you've probably better saving up for deeper/lighter in future, rather than now. If you can afford the Visions now, without impacting future wheel choice, then go for them! Also flogging the Giants... ;)

Anyone flown with EasyJet recently...? :o
 
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Vision's are for triathliens.
Line up all the 35/40's from Zipp, Enve, FFWD, Roval, HED, Mavic. Then list them all in order of which would look coolest on your bike.... Then make the final decision based on the cheapest of your top 3 after you spend 2 weeks Google pricing.
Declaring aero vs weight warfare on the above brands of very similar wheels for a road bike is not worthy of your time. Buy the ones you can afford that look sick m8 on your bicycle.
 
Roady said:
Anyone flown with EasyJet recently...? :o
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I will be with bike for Loch Ness sportive next month!

It's not the airline that handle the baggage though right? This could have happened with a more premium airline there too?

To be honest, it doesn't look super reckless. I can only imagine they are far less caring in the confines of the airport itself than outside the plane.
 
Not super reckless but still scary to see frames dropped like that. Put plenty of polystyrene in the bottom of your bag! :o

Yeah all ground crews are airport specific, no idea where this was. I'd expect long haul to be better - bigger planes with higher quantities of heavier luggage (so generally unloaded with conveyor belts).

Just makes me think if I ever frequently travel I'd take an alu frameset over a carbon! ;)
 
Re: that EasyJet video, was baffled when I first saw that posted. If my bike box gets treated like that all the time in transit I'd be delighted! Think the guy is doing a decent job given what they weigh and how awkward they are. That said, hiring a bike in Mallorca was well worth the moderate extra expense. The peace of mind and faff-reduction was priceless but granted not all destinations are so good for hire.
 
A group of us are off on Thursday with Easyjet. We're all taking our own bikes. Three of us have rented hard shell boxes. I packed mine up on Sunday and it took a bit of time but seems good. Plenty room in the box for shoes, helmet, tools, nutrition and clothes. Only downside is that the weather in Portugal is looking a bit rubbish. Fingers crossed it cheers up and we get some decent km in. I'll do a write up when we are back!
 
You'll have a better time with some warmer temperatures and probably less wind than we're experiencing here! Good luck & enjoy! :)
 
Thanks for the suggestions chaps, what sort of budget would be more suitable for an all round wheel then to compliment the rest of the bike?

I'll openly admit again I'll take looks over minimal gains :p

I'm by no means TT focused, I just get a couple of rides a week in and planning a few more trips away in the near future.

Also, could anyone expand on these "Chinese" carbon wheels, any suppliers, feedback etc?
 
I raced up one of the highest mountains in Australia on 65mm tubulars. The rims didn't slow me down!

Main issue with deep dish wheels is the front wheel catches quite a bit of wind. 40mm or less is easily manageable.
 
Genuinely could have had a OcUK team at the Loch Ness Etape thing this year with you all coming up.....
I didn't enter it this year. It was meant to be my bit of "fun" last year as it's on the doorstep and ended up ruining the start of my actual season.
Plus you have to get up too early.
Plus it's a rip off.
Plus it's freezing.
Have fun! :P
 
xdcx said:
Genuinely could have had a OcUK team at the Loch Ness Etape thing this year with you all coming up.....
I didn't enter it this year. It was meant to be my bit of "fun" last year as it's on the doorstep and ended up ruining the start of my actual season.
Plus you have to get up too early.
Plus it's a rip off.
Plus it's freezing.
Have fun! :p
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Oops, I missed all the chat about this?
I'm in! :D
 
'ZUUS' is a good compromise (I think) to Chinese carbon. It's Japanese carbon from a UK supplier with UK 'warranty'. You pay a little price premium for it, but still loads cheaper than branded wheelsets! Generally quite well regarded, did Paul get some? Or was it someone else? Know they were mentioned here a little while ago...

http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12980601

We nearly had an OcUK team in a Zwift race last night, me, booyaka and touch! Check the turbo thread for more details ;)
 
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