I like to think by the speed of his departure.....
What the hell? You are saying this 18st man left really fast? did his feet smoke as he ran?
I like to think by the speed of his departure.....


You. Mine would be an act of self defence (for which you are pretty much allowed to use weapons opportunistically), whereas yours would be an act of aggression.
Either way, as soon as the fat guy was in the road, he had right of way.
Using your horn is not provocation - it's designed to let other road users know you are there, and if a bus was about to drive in to the side of you using your horn is completely justified, and recommended. For the bus driver to then get out and start trying to pound your window in is extreme aggression, and it's not unreasonable to assume that if he manages to get through he will harm you. It is therefore reasonable to escape the situation and driving through/over them is fair game I'd say.I doubt self defence applies when you provoke the matter...
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Using your horn is not provocation - it's designed to let other road users know you are there, and if a bus was about to drive in to the side of you using your horn is completely justified, and recommended. For the bus driver to then get out and start trying to pound your window in is extreme aggression, and it's not unreasonable to assume that if he manages to get through he will harm you. It is therefore reasonable to escape the situation and driving through/over them is fair game I'd say.
Yeah, but mine's not muscle, it's fat. It's taken years to train to get to my level![]()

I'm not defending the OP at all.In the OPs case, it was clearly provocation. As for the matter of busses, it is advised to let busses have right of way when pulling out, so for anyone being an idiot and not doing so is provocation in my eyes.
Not really. You can't go having fights with people. Provocation is a defence that you can only use in extreme cases in murder situations, not when somebody has flipped you the bird or tooted their horn and you beat them up because of it. If you assault someone you are guilty of assault provocation or not.Depends entirely on the situation.
Road tax is paid on emmissions not for use of the roads which cyclists are as much allowed to use as cars are.
Pedestrians always have right of way.
Double fail for you.
This!
I'm too fat to run away so have to stand and bang them!!
I love these 'hard' men that cross roads even though they can see a car coming expecting you to slow down only to run like a girl when they realize you are not going to slow down for them.
Just like cyclists who think they own tarmac even though they do not pay road tax!
The OP reminds me of one time where I left my lights on in a main road. Came back in the morning needing a jump. My girlfriend parks her car on the road next to mine to give me a jump with her hazards on. Woman behind her starts thumping her horn and giving gestures. Yet when I approach her car to give her some lip you hear the loud clunk of the locks and a sheepish look.![]()
How in fignolia do I become the aggressor after he 1. provoked me by walking nonchalently in the road endangering us both 2. Flips me off for flashing at him
....clearly they live in a different world and do not regularly go out on a Saturday night and get yelled at point blank in their ear while in a busy high-street for example. It must be my intimidating lack of tatoos, cuff-length shirt, jeans and trainers...
Cyclists have the same, if not more of a right to be on the road as you.
You had me agreeing until you said that cyclists have more of a right to be on the road as vehicles... Under what reasoning do they have more right to be on the road?
Cyclists have an implicit right to use the road, as do pedestrians, horse riders, etc. Car drivers need a license.
Also, the general principle outlined in the highway code is that the more vulnerable the road user, the greater their right of way.