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Rocket Lake Review: A waste of sand...

Ouch, that's a damning review. But not exactly surprising. It's +/- 10% per core with fewer cores than tenth gen, not a real Ryzen competitor.

Sooo... we're all shorting Intel next right?
 
Not sure why Intel bothered releasing this, they should have just brought Alder Lake forward if at all possible, instead.
CPU and GPU production isn't really something with much wiggle room. It takes years to plan out these releases, so they're pretty much set in stone (barring unforseen delays). They could have just cancelled Rocket Lake of course, but that would have A) left them without any sort of response to Zen 3 for close to a year and B) resulted in a huge sunk cost for the R&D that went into the architecture. Better from their point of view to just throw it out there and recoup what they can. It also allows them to say that Z490 got its standard two generations of CPUs, to ward off anybody getting angry about it being dead post-Comet Lake. The whole thing is remarkably similar to Broadwell, which was also shoved out there as an obligation, despite being an underperforming non-upgrade from Haswell/Devil's Canyon and released mere months before an actual breakthrough architecture in Skylake. Moreso when you consider that the iGPU is probably the most interesting part of both.
 
So basically pick the 10700K/KF out of any at 11700K/KF or the 5800x because neither are worth looking at since they are similar price and for the price 10700K/KF are much better value. Unsurprising really in current market. AMD needs to drop their 5800x price to £310 to really compete with the 10700KF by all accounts then and ignore the 11700K/KF completely in my view otherwise that is where my recommendation would go. The extra £30 or so over the 10700K if it was dropped to £310 in my view would be for things like being more power efficient which I appreciate being on an SFX power supply and also thus easier to cool.
 
I know that by using 1080p medium resolution he is putting more work on the cpu to highlight the differences between them, but the video needed more 1080p high/ultra and 1440p tests to realistically show how people will be using that cpu/gpu combination. In some 1440p gaming tests the 11th gen came out better. I suspect that hardware unboxed will do a more comprehensive set of benchmarks. For many budget minded gamers the review of the 11400 will be interesting
 
I gave him a heads up in this thread after his silly comments above mine :- https://www.overclockers.co.uk/forums/posts/34655519/ ;)

It's ironic that he posted something mature, which spelled out his purchase justifications (which believe it or not you're allowed to do) and you replied with a childish comment.
He definitely seems to deliberately wind some of you up, but you all act morally superior then just continually gang up and bully him. It's sad really, two wrongs don't make a right and you should all grow up IMO.
 
It's ironic that he posted something mature, which spelled out his purchase justifications (which believe it or not you're allowed to do) and you replied with a childish comment.
He definitely seems to deliberately wind some of you up, but you all act morally superior then just continually gang up and bully him. It's sad really, two wrongs don't make a right and you should all grow up IMO.

Quoted for truth.
 
It's ironic that he posted something mature, which spelled out his purchase justifications (which believe it or not you're allowed to do) and you replied with a childish comment.
He definitely seems to deliberately wind some of you up, but you all act morally superior then just continually gang up and bully him. It's sad really, two wrongs don't make a right and you should all grow up IMO.
He does type some rubbish though, like saying a 3000 series GPU is wasted at 1440p, banging on about 10GB vram not being enough for 4k and then buying one himself. Waxing lyrical over Intel chips.

I do agree that AMD have had issues, I had one myself where my keyboard just stopped responding until I unplugged it and put it back in. But Intel also have their own issues.. I'm not sure I've ever had a PC where there hasn't been at least 1 issue.
 
I do agree that AMD have had issues, I had one myself where my keyboard just stopped responding until I unplugged it and put it back in. But Intel also have their own issues.. I'm not sure I've ever had a PC where there hasn't been at least 1 issue.

The issue as far as I'm concerned is how likely is someone to actually run into those issues? I once had an Intel CPU just die on me under light usage at stock settings, does that mean it's fair for me to go around warning everyone Intel CPUs just die and should be avoided? Of course not, it's not a realistic representation of the reliability of their CPUs, it's terrible advice and is simply an excuse to bash Intel even though technically correct.

Which is what I'm immediately reminded of when certain people's only argument to fall back on is 'AMD issues'.
 
Leo called this out months ago. If you thought it through properly and looked at what Intel could achieve here given the limitations it was always going to be a dud.
 
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I do agree that AMD have had issues, I had one myself where my keyboard just stopped responding until I unplugged it and put it back in. But Intel also have their own issues.. I'm not sure I've ever had a PC where there hasn't been at least 1 issue.

Just bad contacts, cured by re-insertion, nothing to do with AMD. I've had bad usb contacts on my old Corsair RGB keyboard recently, and the main power plug to my Asus motherboard a couple of times. Both cured by unplugging with the power off.

My old Intel six core peaka at 4Ghz and eats everything I throw at it yet it looks like my next port of call will be an AMD for the pcie4 m2 socket and better price/performance/temps by far...
 
Where's Dave2150 to spin this into a good thing?

Not sure why Intel bothered releasing this, they should have just brought Alder Lake forward if at all possible, instead.

He's probably I'm a corner muttering about AVX-512, microcode updates and how we're all toxic because Intel's marketing material isn't treated as gospel on here.
 
It's ironic that he posted something mature, which spelled out his purchase justifications (which believe it or not you're allowed to do) and you replied with a childish comment.
He definitely seems to deliberately wind some of you up, but you all act morally superior then just continually gang up and bully him. It's sad really, two wrongs don't make a right and you should all grow up IMO.

That really is one of his most rational posts ever to be fair.
 
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