Ronaldinho says - no English team will go through

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From: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4324717.stm


And Ronaldinho added that he expected all four English challengers in Europe's premier competition to fall by the wayside this week.
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"I don't think any of the English sides will do it," he added.

"My predictions would be Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, or AC Milan and maybe Inter to challenge."
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Well, he might be referring to Quarter Finals, rather than Second Round. Question is - does he have a point?
 
Well Chelsea have a decent chance but obviously he will say he expects them to go out.

Man U will probably go out, Arsenal will go out.

So that just leaves Liverpool who 'should' go through but you wouldn't put your house on it.

He definitely does have a point, only one team has a lead and that team is in poor form I definitely wouldn't be suprised to see them all crash out. Not that it will make a difference to sky creaming themselves over 'the best league in the world' though.

Nice quote from Eto'o he was a fair bit cheaper than Drogba and I know who I'd rather have.
 
i surly hope he's wrong but lol he's prob right!
Arsenal... lil chance but not much of one
Man U... Never going to get an away goal @ Milan
Chelski... will lose 2-1 agen
Liverpool... well good chance but might slip up.. done it before
 
I think all English teams have a hard task, but it's more than feasible that all four could go through when you look at it:

Arsenal need a 2-0 against Bayern which isn't too difficult for an attacking Arsenal side. I'd fancy Arsenal to concede, but then I wouldn't bet against them scoring 3.

Liverpool have a tough tie in Germany, but if they play well they can ride it out. Leverkusen will have to win 2-0, and based on the first tie, I can't see that happening.

Chelsea have more than enough talent to take the draw to Barca at home, especially as they only need 1 goal. Barca are exceptionally talented going forward, so that may be a problem but I would still put money on Chelsea.

Man U have, possibly, the hardest task despite only losing 1-0 at OT. Going to Milan and trying to score 2 is going to be incredibly difficult. But going Man U's way is their European pedigree... They would still have to play out of their socks IMO to get a win.
 
Man Utd and Arsenal have little chance IMO

Chelsea have a hope but seem to lack creativity without Robben and i fancy barcelona to score again.

Liverpool should be alright.
 
Perhaps it's just blind patriotism, but I can see all 4 going through as much as I can see them going out. I'd particularly like Arsenal to knock the stuffing out of Bayern, and knowing what is needed of Man U, should produce a performance from them that would be great to watch.
 
Man U have little chance??!
Ho ho, the mighty Milan who let something like a 4-1 lead slip last year in the same position against Deportivo?
Man u have to score score 2 goals whatever, and have a cusion of being able to conceede another one while doing so.
 
he never mentions leverkusen getting through, so he isnt dissing ALL the UK teams.

he is just chatting sense. Why did we have to go down at HOME for petes sake, and now we have thrown away all chances of a league title too...

season = nearly over for us.
 
atpbx said:
Man U have little chance??!
Ho ho, the mighty AC Milan who let something like a 4-1 lead slip last year in the same position against Deportivo?
Man u have to score score 2 goals whatever, and have a cusion of being able to conceede another one while doing so.
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:rolleyes: you sound confident, go visit the bookies!
 
All 4 teams have a decent chance I wouldn't dismiss any of them.

Arsenal down by 2 and have an away goal, if any team can put two past a side its Arsenal they are more than capable of playing the kind of attacking football that any defence would have trouble with.

Man Utd lost the home leg but are more than capable of winning the away leg just ask Juventus.

Liverpool have a great advantage and I would expect Liverpool to be able to defend a lead like that and maybe even nick one.

Chelsea are at home have an away goal and are only down by one. With 11 men on the field there is no reason to think they couldn't keep Barce from scoring and there is no Reason to think they couldn't grab a goal maybe even two.

Some of the English teams have made life hard for them selfs but it doesn't mean it can't be done.

To be honest I would expect Liverpool & Chelsea to go through. I hope we get Chelsea Man Utd and Liverpool through although I doubt 4 from England will get into the next round its a big ask.
 
Majik said:
Arsenal....they are more than capable of playing the kind of attacking football that any defence would have trouble with.
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I disagree with that, their attacking football let's them cruise past the weaker teams in the PL but consistently fails in Europe against even the weakest of CL opposition. How many times has this wonderful attacking football ever shown itself in the CL, about twice I think in 5 years. With a defence like a sieve Arsenal are clutching at straws.
 
Goatboy said:
I disagree with that, their attacking football let's them cruise past the weaker teams in the PL but consistently fails in Europe against even the weakest of CL opposition. How many times has this wonderful attacking football ever shown itself in the CL, about twice I think in 5 years. With a defence like a sieve Arsenal are clutching at straws.
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How easily some people forget,

Last season 1-5 against Inter Milan

Seaon before 1-3 against Roma, 2-0 against Dortmund

Season before that 3-1 against Juve, 4-1 against Leverkusen.

They aren't consistant with it but they can do it and there is no reason why they can't do it against Bayern.
 
Goatboy said:
I disagree with that, their attacking football let's them cruise past the weaker teams in the PL but consistently fails in Europe against even the weakest of CL opposition. How many times has this wonderful attacking football ever shown itself in the CL, about twice I think in 5 years. With a defence like a sieve Arsenal are clutching at straws.
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The weaker prem sides are just really really bad teams, they dont get the basics right, they dont track runners, they defenders let their men go, they dont press in the midfield or up front, they panic in possesion, they dont have a passing game, that plays right into a half decent sides hands.

Arsenal do have cracking players, but they are to used to trying to score perfect goals, CL sides dont give them gaping holes to play cute little passes through, or give Henry 2 or three yards to get it under and run at them.
If they go out against Munich just to get at them and get the job done they will be fine, they only thing is, is that in Arsenals mentality, just to go out and win the game in a sunday league style if they have to?
I think they can do it.

I think Chelsea need to do the same thing against Barcelona, i dont think a lot of their players will fancy mixing it up, and with Drogba being suspended Morinho will have to go with the supierior Gudjonson up front giving them a better than even chance of going through.

Liverpools chances are entirely dependant on what Laverkusen side turns up.
 
Majik said:
How easily some people forget
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What is there to forget? Barring a few ok results Arsenal haven't actually done anything. Dortmund and Leverkeusen aren't anything special these days.

They've been crap in Europe this season and seasons before and now they're suddenly going to rip apart the side that beat them comfortably 2 weeks ago. How quickly people forget, it should have been 4-0 they were incredibly lucky to come away with 3-1. If they coulnd't beat sides like Panathinaikos how are they going to beat Bayern?
 
Liverpool should scrape through.
Arsenal will either get hammered again or beat Munich comprehensivly to go through.
Chelsea, should go through imo if they dont conceade early.
ManU, have a v.big task ahead of them. They played an understrength Milan at Old Trafford and still lost. Admitadly, a mistake by Carrol, but excluding the goal, they only just stayed competitive with Milan with Utd at near full strength & Milan under strength. At SanSiro, Stam & Inzaghi are back. And if Shevy has his way, he`ll play with a mask (but i doubt the club will let him).
Utd are capible of going though, winning at Milan, but it`ll only be because Milan have another off day.
 
Goatboy said:
What is there to forget? Barring a few ok results Arsenal haven't actually done anything. Dortmund and Leverkeusen aren't anything special these days.

They've been crap in Europe this season and seasons before and now they're suddenly going to rip apart the side that beat them comfortably 2 weeks ago. How quickly people forget, it should have been 4-0 they were incredibly lucky to come away with 3-1. If they coulnd't beat sides like Panathinaikos how are they going to beat Bayern?
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Chelsea couldn't beat Newcaslte how are they going to beat Barce?

Man Utd couldn't beat Palace how are they going to beat Milan

Real Madrid couldn't beat Athletico Bilbao how are they going to beat Juventus?

I'm afraid it doesn't work like that. Football is a funny old game and Arsenal can beat bayern on their day just as Bayern can beat Arsenal on a good day.

Lots of variables and anything can happen including an Arsenal victory to progress.

I'm not saying they will I'm saying they have a good enough attack to do it and there is no reason why they can't.
 
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