Royal Family - Abolition?

[VIRII]

My thoughts are, the Royal family are upper class twits, Royals = Waste of tax payers money
While we, her so called disciples who grafted hard all their life have to do without and live in constant pain
just put an end to this grovelling and throwing my tax's to these upper class twits.

Sounds like a severe case of working mans club syndrome. Class jealousy and a complete lack of reason. "Upper class twits" - what an insightful and intelligent reasoning that is.
If you want rid of scrounging scumbags then lets get rid of huge portions of the "working class" who have never actually worked a day in their lives who love to sit around moaning about "upper class twits".

 

[MNuTz]

Keep them, pay them less!

In todays Britain we need as many "British" things saving as possible, after watching several programs about extreme Islam over the last few days they want to take Great Britain and make it theirs!

 

[VIRII]

All i think is this;

they abolished hereditary lordships 'cause it was unfair for current gen to benefit from acts of past - on this same logic why do we have royal family?!

They abolished it because it stopped Labours policies in the house of Lords too often.

 

[VIRII]

The thought of Camilla, sat in a palace, having someone dunk her Lincoln biscuit for her into a cup of the Earl Grey, makes my blood boil.

Do you think that really happens? Seems a bit silly to get so wound up about a fantasy of your own creation.

 

[Abraham]

i dont have a problem with the royal family really, other than tourist attraction and a respected head of state i cant really argue much in their favour, but i think if the queen dies, charles is almost guaranteed to abdicate, especially if it's more than 5 years from now, prince william will take the throne, and that will have a massive affect on the image of the royal family, to go from an aging (if dignified) old woman to a young 20-something man

 

[Carzy]

Sounds like a severe case of working mans club syndrome. Class jealousy and a complete lack of reason. "Upper class twits" - what an insightful and intelligent reasoning that is.
If you want rid of scrounging scumbags then lets get rid of huge portions of the "working class" who have never actually worked a day in their lives who love to sit around moaning about "upper class twits".

Agreed.

 

[VIRII]

Just look at the recent Sky TV broadcast of the equally ridiculous American Chopper series when they visited the UK

Why watch it if it is ridiculous? Do you really care whata bunch of Orange county "hells angels" think? I appreciate their metal working skills but I don't think I would find much interesting political conversation with them.

 

[WIBSBOT]

Would I be right in assuming that if we didn't have a monarchy, then we wouldn't have a commonwealth either - as the queen is head of the commonwealth ?

Also, the Queen's speech at Xmas is great.

 

[Mr Bulbous]

How on earth can you use a tacky US TV show to view everyone's opinion on the Royal family? (they don't even make proper custom bikes).I've travelled to a hell of a lot of countries over the last year and whenever this subject has been brought up any country without a royal family has wished they had one.


/angryness

My example of how the Teutul's (American Chopper) perceived the prim and proper way of Royalty was just an example. Practically all foreigner's view the Royals with a mix of history and comic relief, they all want a glimpse of Charlie's hair do or to hear Prince Philip make one of his famous blunders.

Like you. I'm well travelled, and yes people say to my face, I like your country England (even though I'm Scottish) They say all sorts of nice things, just like I say to them about their country, but you must realise, this is token value stuff and just common good manners.

The bottom line is, the Royal Family are over-paid fools, and are seen as buffoons by tourists, despite what they tell you face to face.

So, if we are going to keep them on, lets maximise on their idiocy and pay them what they deserve (not much) this is 2006 not the dark ages.

All IMHO of course.

 

[Nikias]

I hate the notion that because of their birthright, they are somehow better than the rest of us. We are all born equal. This is not any kind of jealousy; I would hate such a lifestyle of publicity and wealth.

That said, I am not avidly campaigning for their abolition because they are not currently doing a great deal of harm.

Nevertheless, I believe that the democratic process in this country has a lot that can be improved (e.g., voting reform, altering the composition and function of the House of Lords). If and when these reforms do occur, I support the simultaneous removal of the Royal Family.

They abolished it because it stopped Labours policies in the house of Lords too often.

If their interests were Machiavellian, then they also suited the public interest. Why on earth should people wield any kind of political power through inheritance?

I just wish they would finish the job of the House of Lords reform.

 

[theleg]

My example of how the Teutul's (American Chopper) perceived the prim and proper way of Royalty was just an example. Practically all foreigner's view the Royals with a mix of history and comic relief, they all want a glimpse of Charlie's hair do or to hear Prince Philip make one of his famous blunders.

Like you. I'm well travelled, and yes people say to my face, I like your country England (even though I'm Scottish) They say all sorts of nice things, just like I say to them about their country, but you must realise, this is token value stuff and just common good manners.

The bottom line is, the Royal Family are over-paid fools, and are seen as buffoons by tourists, despite what they tell you face to face.

So, if we are going to keep them on, lets maximise on their idiocy and pay them what they deserve (not much) this is 2006 not the dark ages.

All IMHO of course.

You dont think the Americans might have a certain view of our royal family and monarchy in general given the way their nation was founded?

 

[VIRII]

Would I be right in assuming that if we didn't have a monarchy, then we wouldn't have a commonwealth either - as the queen is head of the commonwealth ?

Also, the Queen's speech at Xmas is great.

Yes she is head of the Commonwealth.

 

[antijoke]

Bohemian Rhapsody.

(excuse the spelling)

hahahahahaha (fat bottomed girls would be appropriate)

 

[VIRII]

(even though I'm Scottish)

Ahh and I wonder how much this has to do with your opinion.
I wonder if Edinburgh was the capital of the UK and the Monarch was a relation of some Scot how much your opinion would change.

 

[cleanbluesky]

What was the Queen's speech this Xmas - I didn't watch it as protest for the PC garbage from the year before...

 

[VIRII]

I hate the notion that because of their birthright, they are somehow better than the rest of us.

What notion is that then? Seems to exist purely in your mind.

If and when these reforms do occur, I support the simultaneous removal of the Royal Family.

To what end and for what purpose.



If their interests were Machiavellian, then they also suited the public interest. Why on earth should people wield any kind of political power through inheritance?

Because historically speaking and right up until this very day the HoL have provided a very useful function as a check to the house of commons who can ultimately over rule them anyway. Rather than change to suit your "it's not fair" attitude re birthright show how they fail the country becuase if the system is working well then don't change it.

 

[Mr Bulbous]

Please don't talk down to me VIRII, it doesn't suit you, I'm offering my opinion here on the Royal's, nothing more.

If you want rid of scrounging scumbags then lets get rid of huge portions of the "working class" who have never actually worked a day in their lives who love to sit around moaning about "upper class twits".

I couldn't agree with you more, lets get rid of those wasters, just as much as we need to get rid of the Royal wasters.

I've worked hard all my adult life (46 just now) and have been privileged to earn high income in the oil industry and paid the massive taxes that go with it.

I have a right to say what my taxes should go to, and I say here to you ... the Royal family are an outdated waste of my tax payer money and yours.

Get rid of them.

 

[Feek]

Sounds like a severe case of working mans club syndrome. Class jealousy and a complete lack of reason. "Upper class twits" - what an insightful and intelligent reasoning that is.
If you want rid of scrounging scumbags then lets get rid of huge portions of the "working class" who have never actually worked a day in their lives who love to sit around moaning about "upper class twits".

Couldn't agree more.

K.

 

[VIRII]

I have a right to say what my taxes should go to, and I say here to you ... the Royal family are an outdated waste of my tax payer money and yours.

Get rid of them.

Now that type of post I can debate with sensibly but when it comes down to class warfare and isn't based on any sensible economic premise then I do find it worthy only of derisory response.

In much the same way I don't and can't support anti hunt people who start their argument against fox hunting as "a bunch of over-privileged snobs riding around on horses". The issue for me is what they are doing as opposed to who they are.

I hope the analogy makes sense because the issue of Monarchy should be about how they do or don't benefit the country economically, socially and internationally rather than about divine right or fantastical rich tea biscuit dipping scenarios.

On the subject of income and privilege if we take your personal circumstance you've earnt a packet and much of the reason you've been able to is because of where you were born. By your reasoning you do not deserve it any more than anyone else so we should all earn identical wages and you should pay back everything you've earnt over the national average wage.
Are you happy to do that?

 

[Curio]

To me, they're a generally useless bunch. They do generate tourism and, as a Brit living abroad, it is kinda cool having a Queen However, I wouldn't want to get rid of them. They're part of our rich history and culture. Again, as somebody now living in a country with relatively little history, that all seems important to me and something to be proud of. I'd just like to see them streamline and modernise......which I guess is happening anyway. I'd also like to see them actually involved a bit in the running of the country - maybe all royals have to spend some time as an MP or something. That way they would be more in touch with the reality of UK life and people might actually think of them as worthwhile. I dunno, maybe that's a stupid idea....I just pulled it out of thin air........but I just think they need to be more, um, in touch.