Caporegime
If this does 40 MH/s at 70 Watts it will sell by the pallet load at $400 a piece.
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RTX 3050 - starting at $249 (msrp)
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If this does 40 MH/s at 70 Watts it will sell by the pallet load at $400 a piece.
Caporegime
I'll put it in to context, my GPU does 45 MH/s at 100 Watts, i could sell it tomorrow for £550 to £600. its 15 months old.
Yes it will, its all about mhash per watt and actual availibility.
We will see when it's out and 24 hours after what the real price sets at as i'm sure retailers will pretend to sell out instantly even before they are listed and few days later they come back with a new price x2 x3...
https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/2022-cpu-gpu-price-increase-tsmc
AMD, Intel and Nvidia CPU and GPU Pricing Expected to Increase in 2022
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How exactly will it do 40 MH/s? A 6600 which has the same memory bandwidth does 30 MH/s when tuned. And mind you this is an LHR card too so it will actually be less.
No one knows if this is LHR - even more so now that Nv have announced a partnership with FLUX coin
Caporegime
I don't know.
Soldato
Get the air compressor at the ready....
Caporegime
The 6600XT was available at MSRP for a few weeks, so maybe.
24hrs 1.5x MSRP within a week 2x MSRP then slow creep toward 3xMSRP
the usual MO3050 has mining potential so it will retail high.
it was about 1 week. that card was released in the middle of a crypto dump and thats why it had good availibility for a short time. now it is £500+ everywhere
6600 non-xt was MSRP for less than few hours. pretty much everywhere started charging £350-400 the very next day.
I think OC had £299 for less than a minute, between the time of listing and adding item to cart, they changed the price from £299 to £349 and some to £429.
the price gouging isnt supply issues, it is just profiteering.
Never mind partnership, Intel are apparently doing one better:
https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/intels-bitcoin-mining-bonanza-chip-bags-its-first-big-customer
Yesterday there was this story about fabs and silicon vendors having a record year:
https://www.computerbase.de/2022-01...-halbleiterbranche-pulverisiert-alte-rekorde/
and poor Intel only had 0.5% YoY growth.
Maybe making crypto equipment is one growth strategy!
Could be but at least the message for the OCUK deals the "PRICE SUPPORTED STOCK NOW SOLD OUT" part is either telling the truth or deflection. Or maybe a mix of both. Of course as I point out in the various record growth threads, just because margins are up doesn't mean profits are at a max. Profit after all is margin times volume no matter how much the stockmarket concentrates on margins, and there's possible less volume. Or we are all falling for the shortages stories.
i think when you look at the prices and stock relationship you need to see what is going with day one and the following days.
6600 is a good example where retailers were gouging consumers.
OCUK just came out with high prices - fair enough thats what they do.
majority of others had very limited stock run on day one at MSRP and that got sold out in matter of minutes. then immediately the next day or days - stock of the original sold out cards became available but at a much higher margin.
there are two scenarios
1) they held back stock for day one to gauge how everyone else is pricing their products to ascertain how they sell the remaining (bulk) of their cards at higher margin
2) for some reason their distributor send 2 batchs of stock with day 1 batch only having say 20 GPU but day 2 having 100s and over charging the day 2 stock even tho the order for the stock is most likely placed as a single order
out fo the 2, 1 is the most likely situation.
margin is high, but remember these GPUs are selling in huge quantity as well. this is back up by the fact that AMD/Nvidia are both making HUGE profits and selling unprecedented volume of GPUs.
things go out of stock doesnt mean retailer sell 1 or 2 GPUs.
OCUK had a preorder RTX30 of 10,000+ RTX 3080+3090 GPUs from release day and most got fulfilled at the end. https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/34851132 - Jun 2021
RTX 3060ti and RTX3070 are more popular and RTX3070 have highest production from nvidia, so it is reason to argue even more than 10,000 RTX 3070 have been sold as of june 2021.
that is A LOT OF GPUs and if the margin on those are doubling trepling then someone is making a lot of money.
6600 is a good example where retailers were gouging consumers.
OCUK just came out with high prices - fair enough thats what they do.
majority of others had very limited stock run on day one at MSRP and that got sold out in matter of minutes. then immediately the next day or days - stock of the original sold out cards became available but at a much higher margin.
there are two scenarios
1) they held back stock for day one to gauge how everyone else is pricing their products to ascertain how they sell the remaining (bulk) of their cards at higher margin
2) for some reason their distributor send 2 batchs of stock with day 1 batch only having say 20 GPU but day 2 having 100s and over charging the day 2 stock even tho the order for the stock is most likely placed as a single order
out fo the 2, 1 is the most likely situation.
margin is high, but remember these GPUs are selling in huge quantity as well. this is back up by the fact that AMD/Nvidia are both making HUGE profits and selling unprecedented volume of GPUs.
things go out of stock doesnt mean retailer sell 1 or 2 GPUs.
OCUK had a preorder RTX30 of 10,000+ RTX 3080+3090 GPUs from release day and most got fulfilled at the end. https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/34851132 - Jun 2021
RTX 3060ti and RTX3070 are more popular and RTX3070 have highest production from nvidia, so it is reason to argue even more than 10,000 RTX 3070 have been sold as of june 2021.
that is A LOT OF GPUs and if the margin on those are doubling trepling then someone is making a lot of money.
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probably going to invest the profits on a new warehouse/ showroom
@KompuKare , Nv already make mining equipment so its time intel enter the game! Leaning towards the ARC ones will be ok at mining
Should eventually relieve some pressure on the demand from miners. But Intel's dedicated ASIC seems to be SHA256 so BTC. ARC is another story entirely. ARC comes out of TSMC's wafer production but if Intel have booked those wafers and TSMC has expanded to meet that demand and since Intel isn't going to be using 60-80% of their TSMC wafers for consoles, then supply should improve.
Question is, can the demand for GPUs to mine ETH be sated? I think PoS will come first, and that stage lots of hype will start for other coins (lots of money for the lucky gambler) but no other coin can support such a huge hash rate. Then things will gradually go back to normalish.
a fleet of lambo for experdited delivery servicesprobably going to invest the profits on a new warehouse/ showroom