Man of Honour
You need to do some reading on how boost works, if peoples cards actually ran at 1710Mhz the performance would be awful and they would be RMAing them in droves.
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Rtx 3080 lower quality capacitor Issue
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You need to do some reading on how boost works, if peoples cards actually ran at 1710Mhz the performance would be awful and they would be RMAing them in droves.
Soldato
To answer my own question all ASUS cards got updated to 6x MLCC for full production. They're updating the images on the website now...
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Doesn’t look good jayz review on the faults https://youtu.be/x6bUUEEe-X8
Soldato
At least read the thread before posting that for the umpteenth time!
If for CPUs and GPUs boost is a nice to have but any level is not guaranteed
Then there is no point reading reviews they just aren't representative
The reviewers would be much better served for their readers reviewing both CPUs and GPUs at the base guaranteed clock and then people can make a judgement based on that performance
If you then get some boost on your particular card in your system then it's a bonus
Would the GPU and CPU manufacturers allow them to review at base clock only ?
If not then why not ?
Then there is no point reading reviews they just aren't representative
The reviewers would be much better served for their readers reviewing both CPUs and GPUs at the base guaranteed clock and then people can make a judgement based on that performance
If you then get some boost on your particular card in your system then it's a bonus
Would the GPU and CPU manufacturers allow them to review at base clock only ?
If not then why not ?
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Joeyuk said:
Yes I think that's what TiN from EVGA was trying to say.
Why have just one type of cap when you can mix it up for tighter regulation.
At least I think that's what he was trying to say as his electrical lingo was going way over my head lol.
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I never said they would clock them as low as 1710Mhz. I'm merely pointing out that these cards are well over their boost clocks. There's no reason these base cards should be spiking over 2Ghz.
Man of Honour
What I don't get is how some people are accepting that 2000mhz is some sort of magic barrier that cards can not run at.
There are plenty of older cards that have no problem going above 2000mhz.
This need a hardware fix, not excuses.
There are plenty of older cards that have no problem going above 2000mhz.
This need a hardware fix, not excuses.
amd been trying to hit 5gz to match intel on clock speed. ryzen just like the new 3000 series is a new architecture so it could just be a limitation on the gpu. and 2000mhz is indeed a magical barrier and thats were the binning of the die cvut off is
this COuld well jsut be a driver issue and hardware is indeed working as intended
Soldato
or it could be pancake.
Man of Honour
A RTX Titan can boost over 2000mhz on a good day with the right cooling and remain stable.
Even this crappy old Titan V I am using ATM which has a huge die can also boost over 2k.
Ain't that the truth! My experience with 1080 Ti's is that if you up the PL to 150% and add the full 93mv, they'll sit at 2000Mhz under heavy load without any manual clock adjustments, just with the boost. 2000Mhz+ is definitely not magical.
Soldato
People keep talking about whats cheaper and not, but that doesn't really matter, it's the implementation of the right components that's important, regardless of cost.
Man of Honour
No limitation with the GA102 chip, this chap managed to get his well over 2000mhz.
https://www.techpowerup.com/272588/...ock-breaks-world-record-in-3d-mark-port-royal
It does help if the chip is supported by good quality components.
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Two ways to look at this , if you are happy with the standard clock 1710mhz and are happy to run a bios to fix the crashes and never oc the card then you have nothing to worry about but as gamers most of us like to boosts card at some point.... I will 100% be buying one with the better caps on now for sure.
Man of Honour
If you are happy with 1710mhz that will give you about the same performance as a second hand 2080 Ti.
No limitation with the GA102 chip, this chap managed to get his well over 2000mhz.
https://www.techpowerup.com/272588/...ock-breaks-world-record-in-3d-mark-port-royal
It does help if the chip is supported by good quality components.
sorry but come on. it doesnt say how cherry picked that chip was it certainly wasnt off the shelf gpu no matter how they want to spin it kinpin and evga gets massive money from thats sort of press.
just because one of the best overclockers in the world with the might of a whole company who can throw everything at a gpu can make the card dance at 2.5ghz doesnt mean anything more then marketing look how far the otehrs are behind at that point.
weve also seen on this forum people with differnt cards all getting between 1980mhz to 2070 all with differing result some can hold it steady some can't from asus to msi to founders edition there all struggling between 2ghz and 2.1ghz thats more telling then a professional overclocker with a custom made gpu (the one he used even even be anounced yet )
Man of Honour
The point is he made that chip not just go over 2000mhz, he got it way over to 2580mhz.
The point is the chip is capable but what is going on with the rest of the electronics on the faulty cards.
I don't think the Kingpin 3090 will have any problems boosting well over 2k when it launches or they won't sell many.
but if all cards currently are having issues including asus msi zotac founders edition gigabyte also then it cant all be layed at faulty cards cant it? all cards currently are having the same isuses with clock speeds and all are using differnt power delivery designs. so are all card faulty? if it was just 1 specific card then yes you could point the finger but most cards top out in the 2000 to 2100ghz that are currently avaible. so what is the issue are all using sub par parts and designs?
look at the clock speeds onthe benchmark site how hit over 2100 is 75 3080
https://www.3dmark.com/search#advanced?test=spy P&cpuId=&gpuId=1338&gpuCount=0&deviceType=ALL&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=overallScore&hofMode=false&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=&minGpuCoreClock=&maxGpuCoreClock=&minGpuMemClock=&maxGpuMemClock=&minCpuClock=&maxCpuClock=
this is the 3090
https://www.3dmark.com/search#advan...ck=&maxGpuMemClock=&minCpuClock=&maxCpuClock=
Man of Honour
Most of the launch 3080 and 3090 partner cards will use cheaper components, the better cards normally turn up 6 or 8 weeks after launch.
It is not all cards that are having the problem or no one would have a working card would they.
It would be more helpful when you quote these things if you could tell us what percentage of each SKU is having the problem rather than saying all cards.
The reason why I posted the Kingpin article is to highlight that the GA102 chip itself works fine, this means the problem is with the supporting electronics. One thing with a Kingpin card is almost everything on it has been changed apart from the GA102 chip and it has very little in common with the launch cards.