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Rumour: Its All the Boards fault, not Wenger?
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I am not at liberty to name that source, but I believe the information I received explains the current impasse at Arsenal.
Yes, sure.
Yes, sure.
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Read this yesterday, As it would explain a couple of things i feel the only people that really know what's going on are Wenger and the board. If he does want to spend the transfer on "super quality" it's only expected that you have to pay top wages which behind the other top clubs we are well behind.
As a Arsenal fan you can only hope that the situation is not "that" bad and only judge Wenger and the board on the 1st sept when the window closes.
As a Arsenal fan you can only hope that the situation is not "that" bad and only judge Wenger and the board on the 1st sept when the window closes.
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We don't have any strength in depth, so of course we need to be looking at proven EPL players like Samba, Cahill, Jagielka etc. If Wenger doesn't think any of those defenders are better than what we already have in the starting 11 then that's fine, but I'd take any of those three over the likes of Djourou or Squillaci any day. We need to add a couple of players to the first team but more than anything we need more strength in depth because when the injures/suspensions come we end up getting completely boned.
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Makes Wenger look more ridiculous to be honest. 150k for our top players, means the likes of Diaby move up from 60 to 80-90k.
Theres two ways to have a team, go for cheaper younger players, and a large youth squad, with a LOT of players on decent wages, of a much smaller squad of people on very large wages.
The former has lots of turnover, but theres ALWAYS high quality young players to pick up, the only failure is the ones we've been getting lately are rubbish. If Diaby, Denilson, Song, Sagna and Gibbs were all brilliant, we'd be doing great with a cheap team, if they leave eventually you get new young players. Arsenal had success for years doing that, nothings changed, just Wengers ability to spot a player.
RVP on 150k a week, maybe, Cesc, maybe, Cesc didn't leave for the money though, neither did Gilberto, Flamini, Henry, Vieira, Gallas(who is on reportedly 20-30k less at Spurs), Eboue, Bendtner, Eduardo, etc, etc.
I think Ashley Cole and Ade left for money, hardly a reason to break the wage structure and lose money every year.
Likewise none of the new players he seems to be after, would be on 150k a week, so its irrelevant to this summer, completely.
He wants 150k to give RVP a new deal to keep him at Arsenal, he has two years left, the best thing Wenger can do is sign players so Arsenal are competitive, then RVP has little reason to leave.
Money is a big decider in where you will go, ONCE YOU'VE DECIDED TO GO, but most footballers on 50k+ a week live in a way that their lives wouldn't change in the slightest if they got put on 150k a week. ARsenal players decide to go due to lack of being a title winning side anymore, simple as that.
Wenger could have signed Mata, with an agreement in place 3 months ago if he wanted, its his insistance on taking months over every deal that allows everyone to go around and change their mind, look for more money. We could have signed Jag, Mata, Cahill, M'vila 2 months ago, none would be on over 100k a week.
Cesc was on a 4 year deal, Ronaldo was on a long deal, most great players who leave a club, don't do it on a free transfer. A 4 year contract wouldn't stop RVP from leaving if he decided to go, neither would being on 150k a week.
We could also afford higher wages, if he stopped wasting them all over the place on utter tripe players.
Theres two ways to have a team, go for cheaper younger players, and a large youth squad, with a LOT of players on decent wages, of a much smaller squad of people on very large wages.
The former has lots of turnover, but theres ALWAYS high quality young players to pick up, the only failure is the ones we've been getting lately are rubbish. If Diaby, Denilson, Song, Sagna and Gibbs were all brilliant, we'd be doing great with a cheap team, if they leave eventually you get new young players. Arsenal had success for years doing that, nothings changed, just Wengers ability to spot a player.
RVP on 150k a week, maybe, Cesc, maybe, Cesc didn't leave for the money though, neither did Gilberto, Flamini, Henry, Vieira, Gallas(who is on reportedly 20-30k less at Spurs), Eboue, Bendtner, Eduardo, etc, etc.
I think Ashley Cole and Ade left for money, hardly a reason to break the wage structure and lose money every year.
Likewise none of the new players he seems to be after, would be on 150k a week, so its irrelevant to this summer, completely.
He wants 150k to give RVP a new deal to keep him at Arsenal, he has two years left, the best thing Wenger can do is sign players so Arsenal are competitive, then RVP has little reason to leave.
Money is a big decider in where you will go, ONCE YOU'VE DECIDED TO GO, but most footballers on 50k+ a week live in a way that their lives wouldn't change in the slightest if they got put on 150k a week. ARsenal players decide to go due to lack of being a title winning side anymore, simple as that.
Wenger could have signed Mata, with an agreement in place 3 months ago if he wanted, its his insistance on taking months over every deal that allows everyone to go around and change their mind, look for more money. We could have signed Jag, Mata, Cahill, M'vila 2 months ago, none would be on over 100k a week.
Cesc was on a 4 year deal, Ronaldo was on a long deal, most great players who leave a club, don't do it on a free transfer. A 4 year contract wouldn't stop RVP from leaving if he decided to go, neither would being on 150k a week.
We could also afford higher wages, if he stopped wasting them all over the place on utter tripe players.
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He was asked by Sky Sports if he would spend money and he did actually reply saying he would spend £30,000,000 or even £40,000,000 for the right player, he said it's not a question of money, it's a question of quality. So why the hell Mata is about to sign for Chelsea for under £30,000,000 I have no idea. Clearly Wenger doesn't rate him enough to pay for him, going on his previous quotes of money being no issue.
Or maybe Mata was interested in signing for us until Chelsea got involved? If I was a player I know which club I'd rather go to at the moment.
Or maybe the article is right, and the board aren't willing to pay the wages they would want?
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We wont know for sure, we should have had this wrapped up months ago though, before all that business with Mata's release clause. I'm not some crazed anti-Wenger person, but he's saying all the wrong things of late, he's full of contradictions and he needs to pull his finger out and put some depth in our squad because it's seriously lacking at the moment.
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Not sure. But we know he has money to spend and there's no reason why some of the transfer funds can't be put toward wages. Or better yet get rid of some of the rubbish at the club and free up some wage bill. Fabregas has just left, he must have been on somewhere in the region of £100,000 a week so there should be at least that much.
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Wasn't mata on something like £40k at Valencia? Surely we could easily offer double that wage?
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yes we can but i bet chelsea offered to triple his wages.
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Its an interesting and believable angle I think. Pity no sources are named as I'd love for someone to spring to the defence of Wenger right now.
The flak he is getting from the media and Arsenal fans is awful considering all he has done for that club. I'm almost at the point of wanting him to walk so we can see who can come in and do a better job.
It annoys me that fans go on about loyalty all the time, yet Arsenal have one of the best managers in the world who stuck with them despite Real Madrid (amongst others) literally falling over themselves trying to obtain his services and (lots of) their fans slate him regularly!?
Poor form in my opinion.
The flak he is getting from the media and Arsenal fans is awful considering all he has done for that club. I'm almost at the point of wanting him to walk so we can see who can come in and do a better job.
It annoys me that fans go on about loyalty all the time, yet Arsenal have one of the best managers in the world who stuck with them despite Real Madrid (amongst others) literally falling over themselves trying to obtain his services and (lots of) their fans slate him regularly!?
Poor form in my opinion.
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Maybe a few yrs ago yes but i highly doubt they would want him now even if the Moaning one left...he hasnt won anything for 6yrs now...and if i was a club owner looking for a new manager...he wouldnt be in my top 3 sad to say.
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exactly. who would want wenger as their manager?
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Oh don't be ridiculous. It's one thing saying Madrid wouldn't want him, it's another thing saying no-one would
It pretty clear he wont be rated as high as he was 7-8 years ago, so there will be less interest. It all boils down to whether the relucatance to spend any money is Wengers view or the boards. If its the board then there isnt anyone other than Wenger i'd want in charge. If we really have 70-80 mil to spend and Wenger is being stubborn when we have a team of sick notes then you have to ask yourself is he doing the right thing by the club.