Running Vista. Gaming a noticable drop

Vai said:
You can buy Technet Plus Direct for ~£300, and you get all of these:
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:rolleyes:

Personally I would have thought someone with a Technet Plus Direct would have been well aware of the reasons why gaming on Vista is not up to par at the moment. And I cannot understand why a self confessed gamer would want a Technet Plus account. Surely they would want to spend £300 on a new GPU instead. It doesn't add up. A self proclaimed gamer with a technet plus account downloading a "FULL RETAIL" version of Vista to see if his games run on it and then asking if he should go back to XP.... Hmmmm. :D

I am a pathetic p r i c k
 
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warnea1984 said:
From my testing the FPS has been slower than XP by around 3-5 frames depending on the game, but I imagine that this is due to the Directx 9.0L emulation working in vista.
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If you try counterstrike source/day of defeat source you will see your fps half from xp. In xp i was getting 60-120fps, in vista im getting 20-50fps with the nvidia drivers. But as its not due for public release for well over a month now im sure nvidia will provide some decent drivers before then.
 
I dropped from 171.47fps in source stress test to 165.68fps under vista on the below spec, thats with most settings on high or better + 4aa etc.
 
I have to say some key drivers are missing - namely ATI / NVIDIA although all of my devices were detected and installed using the drivers bundled with Vista.

Thats not to say the performance of games are better. I only really play one game - DoD:Source and have noticed some big performance hits - mostly in stuttering from time to time I have put this down to the ATI Beta drivers rather than anything else. The game always ran very smoothly on XP in the same resolution.

If the new drivers dont fix this when they arrive, I'll be forced to upgrade my x1900xtx to something faster.
 
robmiller said:
Awesome, I hope there's the same level of irrational fear and hatred of Vista as there was for SP2 when that came out!
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My biggest problem with Vista is you are basically signing away your rights to an American company. If you actually take time to read some of the literature from the license agreement to the specification there are so many terribly pitfalls its insane. Digital Rights Management is taken to a whole new level as features are actively disabled to protect intellectual property. All devices must be certified by Microsoft to show they are compliant to this DRM way of thinking, to the extent that all circuitry must be built so that nothing can be tapped into or modified. There are already political ramifications as many non-US governments dont like the idea of their entire infrastructure being reliant on US led operating systems. What if they went to war with America, and suddenly America is able to tunnel into your systems or worse completely shut them down.

Of course thats way over the Gaming forum but interesting non-the-less
 
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Locrian said:
There are already political ramifications as many non-US governments dont like the idea of their entire infrastructure being reliant on US led operating systems. What if they went to war with America, and suddenly America is able to tunnel into your systems or worse completely shut them down.
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ah, the ol' "The CIA have a backdoor built into Windows!" thing. It's complete rubbish of course. The truth is that Bill Gates was replaced by an alien replicant years ago, and before they invade they're going to wipe all the games and porn from our hard drives in a dastardly attempt to demoralise us. Hold me :eek:
 
Quite honestly all these Vista gripes are usually from the same old people who always slate Microsoft.

I'm actually pretty impressed with the new OS although I believe it will be months maybe even a year or two before things really start to take off.

I did read a passage from the Inquirer about some guy saying how the DRM was going to ruin everything but I think this will be more down to protection on the media itself (HD-DVD / Blu-Ray disks) rather than anything imposed at the OS layer. Of course with the downloadable music there's always going to be harsh restrictions but these are already well established. I never download music for this very reason, instead I rip CD's.

Ive been using Vista for exactly the same purposes as I've used it before, Gaming, DVD/HDTV playback and Audio playback and have not run up against any kinds of restrictions in doing this. Sounds like a lot of hot air to me, much like McAfee's rant because they had been locked out of the kernel.
 
So you deny any FPS drops? In fact, you say you deny you had any problems with your gaming? :rolleyes: You're on OCuK forums - maybe there's a slight chance we actually know what we're talking about :p
 
KNiVES said:
So you deny any FPS drops? In fact, you say you deny you had any problems with your gaming? :rolleyes: You're on OCuK forums - maybe there's a slight chance we actually know what we're talking about :p
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lol not at all, see my previous post in the thread...

testa12 said:
I have to say some key drivers are missing - namely ATI / NVIDIA although all of my devices were detected and installed using the drivers bundled with Vista.

Thats not to say the performance of games are better. I only really play one game - DoD:Source and have noticed some big performance hits - mostly in stuttering from time to time I have put this down to the ATI Beta drivers rather than anything else. The game always ran very smoothly on XP in the same resolution.

If the new drivers dont fix this when they arrive, I'll be forced to upgrade my x1900xtx to something faster.
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Well either way, I really can't see how DRM would have a major impact on gaming in Vista.

Bear in mind Vista takes up a larger footprint than XP in terms of memory, storage, processing power and video display (for Aero). I guess thats why the system requirements are greater than for XP.

In the end, everyone will be upgrading to Vista whether they like it or not in order to play DX10 games so they're gonna have to get used to it :D Before long you'll be wondering how everyone used to get by running XP ;)
 
Been using the 64bit version since before xmas now. The only game that won't work at all for me is Kotor 2, and I think that's an ATI driver specific issue.

So far I've installed EQ2, Eve, Neverwinter nights 2, Republic Commando, Quake 4 (looks crap cos ATI beta drivers don't have openGL support), Battle for Middle Earth 2, Battlefield 2142, Wow, Warhammer Mark of Chaos, SWG and Oblivion.

I haven't noticed any noticable slowdown, but I didn't do fps tests because I also upgraded my cpu from an athlon 64 3000 to a core duo 6300. That alone is probably picking up any minor fps losses I might have had.

As an OS, I love it. So many cool little things in it, once you get rid of some of the annoying defaults (are you sure you want to run this program? It might result in a program running...)
 
Who cares where he got his Vista from that's irrelevant.
Anyway Vista is very fast I found compared to XP, and that was when I was running on my old system (3000+ A64). Ain't tried Vista on this one yet looking forward to it though when decent drivers are out.
 
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