Russell Brand.

@jigger so in a world where Brand could potentially make a bit of extra cash off what are currently unproven allegations you think it's fine to stop him from earning from all social media even unrelated to the allegations yes? Bear in mind any legal council will tell you to not say a word regarding ongoing potential criminal acts.

How do you reconcile the fact that the like of r kelly - currently in jail for being a nonce- is still monetised on YouTube, or cardi b whose admitted to carrying criminal acts previously is also still monetised?
Is R Kelly monetised? I think that could be explained by it being a record label which I can't imagine Google would risk as collateral as I would assume any big label would pursue a lawsuit.
 
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As I've said before, this is the livelihood of a person not (currently) guilty of anything (agree that may change though). You are supporting a position where a mans livelihood is at stake. For that reason it is not a silly question.

Yet all you can think of doing is to swerve and deflect away from answering a genuine and serious question. As you won't try to answer it I have to assume you don't have a well thought out answer at all.

This is not a government attack on people livelihoods though. You might think that, but it’s not.

You just come across as desperate to sensationalise nonsense to shape the world as you think it should be.
 
couldn't tell you the last time i watched Brand 'do whatever he does' so not sure what you mean by that but at least you acknowledge he's a celebrity and therefore pretty famous even if you've no actual interest in him.

And Brand has found new fame? Like very recently?
 
This is not a government attack on people livelihoods though. You might think that, but it’s not.

You just come across as desperate to sensationalise nonsense to shape the world as you think it should be.
Please show me where I have said this is a government attack on him or others?

More swerving and deflection trying not to answer. Are you going to answer or not?
 
Please show me where I have said this is a government attack on him or others?

More swerving and deflection trying not to answer. Are you going to answer or not?

Please see my response that upset you.

What are you upset about now. What would you like answered?
 
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No-one has suggested there is a human right to earn a living off of social mnedia. If there were then there would be far tighter control over demonetisation. But until a person is found guilty of a crime, then preventing them earning money due only to accusations (which may or may not be true) is morally wrong. There have been far too many false accusations to blindly assume an accusation means guilt.

What's morally wrong is a 30 year old sleeping with a 16 year old. YouTube is a private company and can do what it likes to protect it's clients brand safety. The same applies to rumble and other sites can make up their own minds based off their terms and policies.
 
People shouldn’t benefit from allegations that’s for sure. People suspected of offences should be suspended. If we’re talking about a workplace suspended with pay ideally, but that’s a little tricky for the self employed as that would mean higher taxes and leaves the system open to greater abuse.

If people feel strongly enough about protecting Brand and his finances, you can always donate money to him.
 
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People shouldn’t benefit from allegations that’s for sure. People suspected of offences should be suspended. If we’re talking about a workplace suspended with pay ideally, but that’s a little tricky for the self employed as that would mean higher taxes and leaves the system open to greater abuse.

If people feel strongly enough about protecting Brand and his finances, you can always donate money to him.
I see you're eating the carrot. I hope it's good.
 
And Brand has found new fame? Like very recently?
There’s nothing new about his fame, so quit trying to peddle that line. No one has had to ask who he is. Not one media outlet, afaik, had to run a ‘who is Russell Brand’ to bring people up to speed. Nearly everyone, certainly in the UK, already know who he is even if they don’t like him or pay him no attention.
Was he likely to have made more money from this increased interest in him off the back of The Dispatches program, absolutely, but that was all down to the media frenzy the program makers created.

To make it 100% clear I utterly despise the man and I wouldn’t be in a room alone with him never mind want my wife or daughter cause I’m pretty sure if the notion took him he’d hump anything :p
So I’m most definitely not trying to defend him as a person but I will defend his right not to be tried by court of public opinion before any legal proceedings have taken place. If he’s guilty of the things he’s been accused of I honestly hope he ends up penniless on the streets after his prison sentence is served. But the way this is being handled is utterly wrong.
 
There’s nothing new about his fame, so quit trying to peddle that line. No one has had to ask who he is. Not one media outlet, afaik, had to run a ‘who is Russell Brand’ to bring people up to speed. Nearly everyone, certainly in the UK, already know who he is even if they don’t like him or pay him no attention.
Was he likely to have made more money from this increased interest in him off the back of The Dispatches program, absolutely, but that was all down to the media frenzy the program makers created.

To make it 100% clear I utterly despise the man and I wouldn’t be in a room alone with him never mind want my wife or daughter cause I’m pretty sure if the notion took him he’d hump anything :p
So I’m most definitely not trying to defend him as a person but I will defend his right not to be tried by court of public opinion before any legal proceedings have taken place. If he’s guilty of the things he’s been accused of I honestly hope he ends up penniless on the streets after his prison sentence is served. But the way this is being handled is utterly wrong.

Ah, OK I’ve made my point about Brands new fame and the potential to make financial gains from the situation. Please continue your argument, but may I leave this roundabout now?
 
Gee maybe someone should have stopped the precious among us from being blinded by the 'threat' of terrorism to notice we're already neck deep in legislation designed wholly to assume guilt and apply penalty whenever it's convenient.

This isn't legislation though is it....

It's even worse than that
 
No one is coming for you chap.
You don't have to make "witty" remarks to cover your lack of knowledge of a topic, you can just admit you don't know or understand @jigger.

But it's a shame to see that some, especially on an IT orientated forum, are quite happy to guzzle down the government's load on the OSB, that basically comprises of "ohmagawd, think of the children" whilst pushing mass surveillance, when the reality is, OSB would have pretty detrimental effect on IT and the day-to-day services we use, especially if some of those that have been vocal do decide to leave our shores (or remove some of their services/products).

Any way, enough of derailing the thread, back to Brand and his escapades...
 
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Ah, OK I’ve made my point about Brands new fame and the potential to make financial gains from the situation. Please continue your argument, but may I leave this roundabout now?
You’ve not made any point just like you’ve not answered the question @Hades asked you. Feel free to leave the roundabout but stop being disingenuous or you’ll just end up back on it again.
 
You’ve not made any point just like you’ve not answered the question @Hades asked you. Feel free to leave the roundabout but stop being disingenuous or you’ll just end up back on it again.

But I have, few times in fact. It’s just not maybe the answer you chaps are looking for.

What I do find concerning, is the numbers of people in this thread seemingly happy for Brand to have sexual relationships with their 16 year old daughters. Clearly brand holds a great deal of influence and power over adult men. In this regard I think a layer of protection is needed.
 
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