'Russia is seriously running out of cash'

scorza · 3 Oct 2016 at 19:52

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37539616

Russia suspends weapons-grade plutonium deal with US, sets conditions for re-instatement of the deal including:

lifting of all US sanctions against Russia and compensation for the damage they have caused

Hmm.

Rroff · 3 Oct 2016 at 19:54

Saw that earlier and was like hmm.

Malevolence · 3 Oct 2016 at 19:56

scorza said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37539616

Russia suspends weapons-grade plutonium deal with US, sets conditions for re-instatement of the deal including:

Hmm.

Not forgetting this condition.

reduction of US military infrastructure and troops in countries that joined Nato after 1 September 2000

Rroff · 3 Oct 2016 at 19:57

I think Putin even asked for a new Ferrari in there somewhere.

Rroff · 4 Oct 2016 at 18:51

Hmm Russia conducting massive drills and expansion/reorganisation of its emergency/disaster response units and civil defence :S looks like those at the top are feeling more and more like they are being backed into a corner.

Zethor · 4 Oct 2016 at 20:20

Rroff said:
Hmm Russia conducting massive drills and expansion/reorganisation of its emergency/disaster response units and civil defence :S looks like those at the top are feeling more and more like they are being backed into a corner.

There is nothing the Russian leaders fear more then prolonged periods of hunger and it has been two long years of hunger so far.

StriderX · 4 Oct 2016 at 22:31

Zethor said:
There is nothing the Russian leaders fear more then prolonged periods of hunger and it has been two long years of hunger so far.

Hunger?

Pfft, there is no famine or serious shortage of food going on yet.

Unlike perhaps the UK where 1 ********* brings the nation to its knees, Russians tend to be a bit less skittish... Regardless it looks like Russia is unprepared to back down to any US action against them, including the halting of START treaty, somewhat we are getting dangerously close to casus belli.

Rroff · 4 Oct 2016 at 23:13

StriderX said:
Hunger?

Pfft, there is no famine or serious shortage of food going on yet.

Unlike perhaps the UK where 1 ********* brings the nation to its knees, Russians tend to be a bit less skittish... Regardless it looks like Russia is unprepared to back down to any US action against them, including the halting of START treaty, somewhat we are getting dangerously close to casus belli.

I'm certainly not liking the way things are looking. I expect nothing will come of it but some brinkmanship but still if it comes to it Russia currently is far more prepared - complacency could end up being costly for the west.

Tefal · 4 Oct 2016 at 23:16

Rroff said:
Hmm Russia conducting massive drills and expansion/reorganisation of its emergency/disaster response units and civil defence :S looks like those at the top are feeling more and more like they are being backed into a corner.

The west has just done the same though.

Germany for one if you remember the recent anouncement that people should stockpile food

West is also preparing militarily for global warming

Rroff · 4 Oct 2016 at 23:20

Tefal said:
The west has just done the same though.

Germany for one if you remember the recent anouncement that people should stockpile food

West is also preparing militarily for global warming

Yeah but what Russia is doing is beyond the German announcement and the little disaster drills we've done here, etc. - carrying out large scale disaster drills that supposedly are going to scale upto large civilian drills (more like the US in the 70s, etc.) and significant investment in equipment. Not sure how much is sabre rattling mind.

Malevolence · 4 Oct 2016 at 23:29

Apparently 40 million civilians, 200,000 emergency rescuers and 50,000 units of equipment are involved in the war game. I can't get my head around the sheer logistics involved in shunting 40 million civilians around.

Tosno · 4 Oct 2016 at 23:38

StriderX said:
Hunger?

Pfft, there is no famine or serious shortage of food going on yet.

Unlike perhaps the UK where 1 ********* brings the nation to its knees, Russians tend to be a bit less skittish... Regardless it looks like Russia is unprepared to back down to any US action against them, including the halting of START treaty, somewhat we are getting dangerously close to casus belli.

I've already been through this with lolzethor. I was in Russia a few months ago, last year and the year before. All the supermarkets are fully stocked, even little village ones. Plus there is Finnish supermarket Prizma there despite so called EU sanctions

I remember on Question Time last year some delirious woman in the audience said sanctions are working because Moscow hasn't got bananas... Yet the village shop had 5000 of them

Tefal · 4 Oct 2016 at 23:43

Rroff said:
Yeah but what Russia is doing is beyond the German announcement and the little disaster drills we've done here, etc. - carrying out large scale disaster drills that supposedly are going to scale upto large civilian drills (more like the US in the 70s, etc.) and significant investment in equipment. Not sure how much is sabre rattling mind.

So updating systems that are nearly 50 years out of date?

Seems sensible.

We're about to engage in huge joint military drills including the first head to head of unmanned ship/air drones vs human manned vessels

Tefal · 4 Oct 2016 at 23:44

Malevolence said:
Apparently 40 million civilians, 200,000 emergency rescuers and 50,000 units of equipment are involved in the war game. I can't get my head around the sheer logistics involved in shunting 40 million civilians around.

Define involved?

Cause they might simply be counting everyone in a city/area with a "curfew" for a night

Tosno · 4 Oct 2016 at 23:46

When I'm on my PC I should post the Christmas dinner Mrs Tosno made me in Russia, since apparently everyone is hungry for two years.

Rroff · 4 Oct 2016 at 23:52

Tefal said:
Define involved?

Cause they might simply be counting everyone in a city/area with a "curfew" for a night

In terms of the "40 million" seems to be studying how people respond to the ongoing drills (which are being carried out by a large number of trained personnel) and handing out info packs, talks in schools, etc.

Tosno · 5 Oct 2016 at 00:16

Zethor, we are dangerously low on pigs in blankets, plz send EU aid and we will turn into used car salesmen

Tefal · 5 Oct 2016 at 00:18

White gravey?

What are you animals!?

Tosno · 5 Oct 2016 at 00:23

Tefal said:
White gravey?

What are you animals!?

More yellow, turkey and vegetable stock with maggi spices, yummy

Tefal · 5 Oct 2016 at 00:37

Tosno said:
More yellow, turkey and vegetable stock with maggi spices, yummy

Exactly no gravy browning.

Savages