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Exactly plus my counter argument to their ‘it’s unfair for the lead driver to lose his gap and lead by it’ was it’s unfair for a driver to miss his strategic pit stop. Swings and roundabouts.
Poll: Russian Grand Prix 2019, Sochi - Race 16/21
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I feel for Vettel. Ignoring the internal politics of ferrari for a moment, he seemed to have real pace and I reckon he would have been on the podium, maybe even the top step.
Leclerc seemed off the pace generally for the whole race.
Naysayers naysaying Bottas and in many regards I agree - he isnt in the same league as lewis. But he is a team player and defended well against a ferrari that by all acounts should have blasted past him based on its performance in previous sessions. Lets not forget they still bought home a team 1,2 in a race where ferarri were the favourites and they once again showed the quality of their tactical decision making and teamwork.
Bottas probably wont ever be WDC but as long as he keeps doing what he is doing I cant see Merc dropping him providing hamilton is still in the other half of the garage.
Leclerc seemed off the pace generally for the whole race.
Naysayers naysaying Bottas and in many regards I agree - he isnt in the same league as lewis. But he is a team player and defended well against a ferrari that by all acounts should have blasted past him based on its performance in previous sessions. Lets not forget they still bought home a team 1,2 in a race where ferarri were the favourites and they once again showed the quality of their tactical decision making and teamwork.
Bottas probably wont ever be WDC but as long as he keeps doing what he is doing I cant see Merc dropping him providing hamilton is still in the other half of the garage.
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Next year he’ll be their number 2 support driver from the get go. He had his chance this year and blew it. His quali pace is inconsistent and his race pace is consistently slow.
I think Magnussen got the fastest lap in Singapore 2019, but finished outside the top 10 and therefore no-one got the bonus point.
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Do you not think leclerc was hanging back a bit where as vettel was pushing? Maybe leclerc wasn’t as fast but I think it had something to do with it.
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Maybe there was a bit of that at the start. But what about the rest of the race? Leclerc never really seemed to match the lap times Vettel was putting in whilst he was in the race even with lighter fuel loads. But maybe I am misremembering?
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The reason is because Charles sets his car up for a one lap qualifying run and Seb sets his up for the race. Hence Charles's tyres are compromised over long runs and has to drive to preserve them more than Seb does.
Which is also why Charles 'appears' quicker in qualifying when in fact it is down to the car. He and Seb have stated this often.
Which is also why Charles 'appears' quicker in qualifying when in fact it is down to the car. He and Seb have stated this often.
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It’s what rosberg used to do which is why he would give Hamilton a good run for his money in qualifying, but then would be under pressure in the race.
What settings do they change to enable a fast single lap and why does that make a slower race pace?
Also, are they allowed to change settings? eg; set the car up for the best qualifying time, then come race day change the settings to favour race pace? If so, why wouldn't Ferrari set both up like Charles for qualy and then both like Seb for the race?
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Also, are they allowed to change settings? eg; set the car up for the best qualifying time, then come race day change the settings to favour race pace? If so, why wouldn't Ferrari set both up like Charles for qualy and then both like Seb for the race?
Thanks.
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The engine map and battery deployment profile. It makes for a slower overall race pace because it uses up the tyres and fuel quicker. Therefore continue pushing that hard you'd need to either make a pitstop for new tyres, or back off later in the race to save fuel, or both. If you can gain ~25 seconds per stint doing this then it can be worthwhile pushing harder through the race, but it also depends on how easy it is to overtake as you'll probably also be out of position and behind slower cars after your stop. This is why most teams prefer to do a one-stop at a conservative pace; track position is king.
No. The cars enter parc ferme at the start of qualifying. From that point on IIRC the only thing they can change is wing angle at the pit stops.
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Parc Ferme:
Teams have to take their cars to this restricted area within three and a half hours after the end of the qualifying session until five hours before the start of the formation lap. However, cars are kept under parc fermé rules for much longer. It starts from the time the car first exits the pit in the qualifying session and ends at the start of the formation lap. Teams are heavily restricted in what work they car carry out on the car.
The list of permitted changes includes adding fuel to the car, tyre changes, bleeding of brakes, carrying out of minor changes to the front wing. These restriction means teams can't make significant alterations between the qualifying session and the race which means there is no real qualifying and race setup. So cars are even locked into a qualifying or a race setup.
The only exception occurs when climatic conditions change between qualifying and race. In this case, FIA’s race director gives permission the team to make appropriate changes to their machines.
Next to the changes mentioned above, there is, in fact, a long list of possible changes. The modifications made between the qualifying session and race of the Canadian Grand Prix demonstrates what alternations teams are allowed
Teams have to take their cars to this restricted area within three and a half hours after the end of the qualifying session until five hours before the start of the formation lap. However, cars are kept under parc fermé rules for much longer. It starts from the time the car first exits the pit in the qualifying session and ends at the start of the formation lap. Teams are heavily restricted in what work they car carry out on the car.
The list of permitted changes includes adding fuel to the car, tyre changes, bleeding of brakes, carrying out of minor changes to the front wing. These restriction means teams can't make significant alterations between the qualifying session and the race which means there is no real qualifying and race setup. So cars are even locked into a qualifying or a race setup.
The only exception occurs when climatic conditions change between qualifying and race. In this case, FIA’s race director gives permission the team to make appropriate changes to their machines.
Next to the changes mentioned above, there is, in fact, a long list of possible changes. The modifications made between the qualifying session and race of the Canadian Grand Prix demonstrates what alternations teams are allowed
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The idea that there was no mechanical management in the past is naive. The driver has always been managing something, from tyres to temperatures. The difference today is that it is more noticeable and far more controllable, normally from HQ in another country.
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That’s the issue from a fan’s point of view; drivers don’t appear to use the full performance of their cars for long due to fuel, brakes, tyres and engine life being so heavily managed.