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Ryzen "2" ?

So considering if true, this would mean a 50% jump in performance in both multi and single threaded stuff, would that be the biggest 1 year performance increase for a very very long time?

50% just seems insane when we have been used to 5% at best each year :p
 
I don't believe the video, its suspicious that there are two of them and none are 8 core 16 Thread, if you're going to leak why not the top of the range 8 core? why the middle 6 core? I wouldn't be surprised if its the 8700K on LN2.

I don't know what Ryzen 2 / Ryzen + will end up being but its not the 5Ghz 7nm that some people seem to think it is, that comes later... this is Globalfoundries 12nm, what was originally meant to be 14nm FinFet+ (IE Ryzen+) but is now plain 12nm FinFet, which has a 15% increase in circuit density and 'over 10%' improvement in performance, what AMD might do with an extra 15% die space 'if anything' is anyone's guess but comparing at least 10% performance improvement is an easy one, Current Ryzen runs at 3.6Ghz base clock with a 4.1Ghz XFR, so that should turn into 4Ghz all cores and perhaps as high as 4.5 or 4.6Ghz XFR. XFR = single core boost.

With some 'low hanging fruit' tweaks i don't see why AMD couldn't also get another 5% IPC gains, i think that's extremely likely especially given that Infinity Fabric in Ryzen 1 is the first iteration and in its infancy. that would bring the Ryzen 5 2600X inline with Coffeelake 8700K, the Ryzen 7 2800X would be that much faster.

Using that 15% extra die space for a larger L3 cache could also increase the IPC some more.

IMO AMD are going to be very competitive during 2018, Intel have shown thier hand and its just another Skylake with higher clocks and two extra cores, AMD can deal with that and i think they will starting early 2018 :)
 
AMD Ryzen 2 Set For March 2018 Launch On 12nm – To Support Higher Core & Memory Clock Speeds

AMD Ryzen 2 Pinnacle Ridge Coming Late February, Early March Next Year – To Support New 400 Series Chipset

Motherboard makers will be introducing several motherboard options, including X470 and B450 flavors, based on a new 400 series Chipset design which will be debuting right alongside the upcoming Ryzen 2000 series.
The good news is that AM4 compatibility is remaining. Theoretically speaking this means that all it will take to turn any of the existing 300 series motheboards compatible with a 2000 Series Ryzen CPU is a BIOS update. This should give buyers the option to opt for the new 400 series chipset, which is expected to bring an expanded feature list, or stay with any of the current flock of 300 series boards to save a few bucks.
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https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-2-set-march-2018-launch-12nm-support-higher-core-memory-clock-speeds/
 
opethdisciple said:
AMD confirm that Vega refresh will be based off of specially modified Ryzen chips.
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I'd rather think there will be no Vega refresh. It's so screwed that AMD needs to return to the drawing board and design something properly working.
Of course the comparison with Zen cores doesn't hold any sense, because Zen cores will be much worse than Vega for these specific applications.

Vega is so screwed that I don't really understand how this project reached the phase of selling actual consumer gaming products.
(It can be used but its characteristics, like performance for the price, and performance for the power consumption are absolute disaster, they simply keep AMD's hands tied, so they can do nothing in the upper gaming segments).
 
4K8KW10 said:
I'd rather think there will be no Vega refresh. It's so screwed that AMD needs to return to the drawing board and design something properly working.
Of course the comparison with Zen cores doesn't hold any sense, because Zen cores will be much worse than Vega for these specific applications.

Vega is so screwed that I don't really understand how this project reached the phase of selling actual consumer gaming products.
(It can be used but its characteristics, like performance for the price, and performance for the power consumption are absolute disaster, they simply keep AMD's hands tied, so they can do nothing in the upper gaming segments).
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I was being ridiculous. ;)
 
4K8KW10 said:
I'd rather think there will be no Vega refresh. It's so screwed that AMD needs to return to the drawing board and design something properly working.
Of course the comparison with Zen cores doesn't hold any sense, because Zen cores will be much worse than Vega for these specific applications.

Vega is so screwed that I don't really understand how this project reached the phase of selling actual consumer gaming products.
(It can be used but its characteristics, like performance for the price, and performance for the power consumption are absolute disaster, they simply keep AMD's hands tied, so they can do nothing in the upper gaming segments).
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I... can't tell if you're taking the **** or not
 
4K8KW10 said:
I'd rather think there will be no Vega refresh. It's so screwed that AMD needs to return to the drawing board and design something properly working.
Of course the comparison with Zen cores doesn't hold any sense, because Zen cores will be much worse than Vega for these specific applications.

Vega is so screwed that I don't really understand how this project reached the phase of selling actual consumer gaming products.
(It can be used but its characteristics, like performance for the price, and performance for the power consumption are absolute disaster, they simply keep AMD's hands tied, so they can do nothing in the upper gaming segments).
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Linux users love AMD GPU's for all sorts of reasons including preferring them for gaming over nVidia.

A mate of mine just swapped his GTX 1080 out for one.
 
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