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4K8KW10 said:
Maybe his review is poor, not the BIOS. Has he mentioned what he needs the BIOS for?
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He said Gigabyte won't get an award until they a fix what he says is a problem with the LLC settings which has been there in the last 10 generations of Gigabyte boards. It surely would have got a top award had they rectified this issue. The good news is that Tom is working with Gigabyte to finally fix the issue: https://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?p=977034

However, the board was overall the best performer of those tested at stock (others were MSI Gaming M7 and Asus Crosshair Hero VII and Prime pro), had great VRM cooling and from the CPU-Z screens it seems to apply a tight tRc timing of 52 ns at 3200 MHz to the Corsair LPX RAM whereas some manufacturers apply loose timings, get higher speeds but worse performance, see: https://overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu...ry_optimisation_-_the_effect_of_trc_timings/1

and https://overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/gigabyte_x470_aorus_gaming_7_wifi_review/5

If I were to get an X470 board I would get the Gigabyte as I really like the VRM cooling and component quality: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNRQZkYB0ns

I'm very happy so far with my X99 SOC Champion too so this makes me slightly biased.
 
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haszek said:
You mean everyone except big technological companies? ;) What about apple, Intel, google, nvidia, why they don't talk about actual products, models before they are actually released?

Also by influence the share price, means you need to inform shareholders upfront and those companies don't want to do that at this time.
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If they didn't talk about it how do we get roadmaps? They give info at shareholder meetings, some public & some not. It's why we get to know about upcoming releases before they release, Things like Navi, Ryzen2, Volta, Cannonlake & Icylake are the obvious ones but they all do it.
 
nashathedog said:
If they didn't talk about it how do we get roadmaps? They give info at shareholder meetings, some public & some not. It's why we get to know about upcoming releases before they release, Things like Navi, Ryzen2, Volta, Cannonlake & Icylake are the obvious ones but they all do it.
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Road map doesn't give you specific model data. In addition AMD is during quiet period so by law is not allowed to release anything that might influence the market.
 
4K8KW10 said:
Maybe his review is poor, not the BIOS. Has he mentioned what he needs the BIOS for?
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Sadly though, as ever Gigabyte have been let down by their BIOS team and this is really down to their load line calibration issues again. We must have reported this at launch for the last 10 releases and if we are honest we are bored of keep having to go on about it. It took their R&D guys 5 days to even bother to replicate it after our initial report and request for them to try and get it sorted. We do this to try and help them make sure YOU guys get the best possible product when you buy it but yet again they are happy to let you guys buy something that hardware wise awesome, yet firmware wise substandard. Because of this attitude they do not get an award and till that BIOS gets fixed we would say in all honesty dont buy it. When it is rectified we will retest and report back but it has taken them months to fix issues in the past so if you have to make a decision now and your finger needs to click 'buy' we would advise pick something else. They should have had a better BIOS covering the basics at launch. Rant over.

https://overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/gigabyte_x470_aorus_gaming_7_wifi_review/18
 
I don't think I've ever had a Gigabyte board. Always had Asus for my or my relatives' main PCs and MSI for other PCs (they've just always happened to have the cheapest boards). If I was to buy now I'd probably go ASRock, partly because of the GPP thing but I'd have gone with them before that debacle too since they seem to make nice high end boards.
 
I have a gig x370 board. Bios updates have been all over the place. Boards bricking themselves, cpus getting insanely high stock volts. Issues with audio.
The hardware is great, but the updates have been so hit and miss, and slow.
I actually stayed on F6 since June because I'd been reading so much **** on their forums from people who'd flashed new ones. Just updated to the F23 beta this week. Seems ok so far but some bench scores are lower than older bios.
 
DragonQ said:
I don't think I've ever had a Gigabyte board. Always had Asus for my or my relatives' main PCs and MSI for other PCs (they've just always happened to have the cheapest boards). If I was to buy now I'd probably go ASRock, partly because of the GPP thing but I'd have gone with them before that debacle too since they seem to make nice high end boards.
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Only ever had one Gigabyte mobo myself, a GA-965P-DS3/S3 and had an E6600 in it. Can honestly say it was as solid as a rock. Things change over time though and to be honest, i never did like the bios at the time even though it was a good mobo. Have mainly had Abit, DFI, EVGA and the current CH6 all of which have been good mobo's other than DFI's early X58.
 
I think you just need to stick to what you know. Everyone has thier own issues with different brands. Other people like the design and features of a specific brand and swear by it every time
 
prjwebb said:
I have a gig x370 board. Bios updates have been all over the place. Boards bricking themselves, cpus getting insanely high stock volts. Issues with audio.
The hardware is great, but the updates have been so hit and miss, and slow.
I actually stayed on F6 since June because I'd been reading so much **** on their forums from people who'd flashed new ones. Just updated to the F23 beta this week. Seems ok so far but some bench scores are lower than older bios.
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agreed. i am on a gaming 5 and updated to 23d this week with no issues so far, but what iam annoyed about is that they still havent fixed the cold boot issue when you turn it off at the wall.
 
BRIGGBOY81 said:
agreed. i am on a gaming 5 and updated to 23d this week with no issues so far, but what iam annoyed about is that they still havent fixed the cold boot issue when you turn it off at the wall.
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Thankfully I never had the cold boot issue. Did have my whole system brick one night though. No Leds or anything, completely unresponsive.

Thankfully a new battery on the mobo brought it back to life.
 
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