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Ryzen "2" ?

Chewie said:
I haven't found out what is causing these problems no but I did write a post about it in the OC UK "Asrock Feedback Thread".

One thing I've also discovered (from another forum) is that on the Taichi the XFR 2.0 option is disabled by default. I have enabled it but it then asks for PDT/TDC/EDC limit values which I have left as is (0). As a result I'm not sure the option is actually doing anything, haven't really noticed a difference so far.

I very much hope that Asrock will sort out their next x370 Taichi bios :rolleyes:
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Unfortunately I haven't got a clue what PDT, TDC or EDC limit values even are, It might be worth checking Asrock's forum out if they have one, At least so you can find out what settings to add for XFR 2.0.
Asrock may not even release another bio's with the fix you need for months if they're not notified directly.
I never had any faith in brand reporting forms but AMD changed my opinion in recent years, What have you got too lose?
 
Chewie said:
One thing I've also discovered (from another forum) is that on the Taichi the XFR 2.0 option is disabled by default. I have enabled it but it then asks for PDT/TDC/EDC limit values which I have left as is (0). As a result I'm not sure the option is actually doing anything, haven't really noticed a difference so far.
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nashathedog said:
Unfortunately I haven't got a clue what PDT, TDC or EDC limit values even are, It might be worth checking Asrock's forum out if they have one, At least so you can find out what settings to add for XFR 2.0.
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Try these out:

The "Precision Boost Override" feature available on 400-series motherboards allows increasing the physical limiters mentioned earlier. On SKUs belonging to the 105W TDP infrastructure group, the default limiters are following: PPT 141.75W, TDC 95A, EDC 140A and tJMax of 85°C (absolute, excl. offset).

When "Precision Boost Override" mode is enabled (AGESA default), PPT becomes essentially unrestricted (1000W), TDC is set to 114A and EDC to 168A. These limits can be customized by the ODM so that the new limits will comply with the electrical characteristics of the motherboard design in question.
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SiDeards73 said:
Think AMD confirmed today on a stream with another UK vendor that the released line up is conpkcom, no 2800X
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AMD also denied working with INTEL....I started the 1080Ti thread as I thought that Nvidia were holding something back. Many on here said there was not going to be a Ti as there was no room for it in the lineup, etc. I'm still going to have a 2800x thought for a few months yet.
 
chroniclard said:
pff :p.

Seem to recall plenty of reviews that do include oc'd cpus though(or is that mostly GPU reviews.....). I have no aversion to reviews including them being an overclocker myself but so long as they also include stock.
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I think that's the best way although I do think reviews of K chips should go for an overclock that's achievable by practically all of us, even novice clockers like myself. If they get a golden sample and want to add higher results that's fine as it'll show us novices whether it's really worth going the mile, which it often isn't. For example a 4790k at 4.5, a 7700k at 4.7 and an 8700k at 4.7 should be achievable by all.

As a gamer I've often found that adding an overclock offers very little just like we are seeing with the 2700k so I tend to be happy with a low or no overclock. I ran my 4770k @ 4.1, my 4790k @ 4.5 and my 1600x is at stock which is where my 2700k will probably be..
 
Hi guys and girls, just popped back to let you know be very careful when using the bundled cooler with the new chips, just removed mine off my 2700x to get water cooling ready and have managed to rip the cpu out of the socket, lucky not damaged the cpu but i have a slight crack in the socket plate the cpu sits in, looks like the tim amd use is more like glue rather than good old timmy, i've got it back up and running but it was touch and go beforehand
 
Always best to warm the cpu up a bit before removing the cooler, and twist before pulling. Learnt that lesson after pulling a Pentium 4 out of a socket and leaving 3 pins behind :D
 
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wookiee87 said:
Hi guys and girls, just popped back to let you know be very careful when using the bundled cooler with the new chips, just removed mine off my 2700x to get water cooling ready and have managed to rip the cpu out of the socket, lucky not damaged the cpu but i have a slight crack in the socket plate the cpu sits in, looks like the tim amd use is more like glue rather than good old timmy, i've got it back up and running but it was touch and go beforehand
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Best to have the system warm before removal and use a slight twist before pulling (not during pulling).

edit: beaten by Hex.
 
subbytna said:
AMD also denied working with INTEL
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That's because Intel contracted them to make a custom part for an Intel product. This means AMD had no right to blab about it.

AMD talking about AMD is different.

wookiee87 said:
Hi guys and girls, just popped back to let you know be very careful when using the bundled cooler with the new chips, just removed mine off my 2700x to get water cooling ready and have managed to rip the cpu out of the socket, lucky not damaged the cpu but i have a slight crack in the socket plate the cpu sits in, looks like the tim amd use is more like glue rather than good old timmy, i've got it back up and running but it was touch and go beforehand
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The TIM softens a bit when warm so either running it a bit beforehand or getting out a hairdrier can help.
 
Hotwired said:
That's because Intel contracted them to make a custom part for an Intel product. This means AMD had no right to blab about it.

AMD talking about AMD is different.
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Not really as it can influence stock market. Any announcement of the product is, so they can't just talk about unreleased/ not ready models.
 
haszek said:
Not really as it can influence stock market. Any announcement of the product is, so they can't just talk about unreleased/ not ready models.
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Hi, I don't think that's right, Everyone talks about upcoming products it's how they get feedback during development so they can improve the final design of a product. The stock market isn't meant to be stable it's fluid, constantly changing as it's influenced by sales, consumer confidence & marketing for current & upcoming products.
 
nashathedog said:
Hi, I don't think that's right, Everyone talks about upcoming products it's how they get feedback during development so they can improve the final design of a product. The stock market isn't meant to be stable it's fluid, constantly changing as it's influenced by sales, consumer confidence & marketing for current & upcoming products.
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You mean everyone except big technological companies? ;) What about apple, Intel, google, nvidia, why they don't talk about actual products, models before they are actually released?

Also by influence the share price, means you need to inform shareholders upfront and those companies don't want to do that at this time.
 
@Hotwired He specifically talks about Precision Boost Overdrive being the reason why the 2000 series chips exceed their TDP, so The Stilt didn't really miss anything. Read his thoughts on power consumption.
Issue here is that Precision Boost Overdrive, Core Performance Boost, Performance Bias, etc. are all MCE like UEFI options that AMD has now and a lot of reviewers didn't properly disable all of these 'features'. Given how much outrage came out of the MCE debacle, you'd expect there would be some for AMD's flavour.
I wouldn't even blame AMD, the fault, as with MCE, probably wholly lies with the motherboard makers trying to one up eachother.

@DragonQ There were quite a few R7 1700 samples which reviewers managed to overclock to 4.1Ghz on launch, reason why I'm reticent. Plus AMD could start saving the top samples for the Zen+ Threadripper again.
Either way if you have anything more than a 1st gen R5, it's not really worth it to 'upgrade'.
 
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