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Ryzen "2" ?
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When is Ryzen 2 likely to be released?
2 of my mates are rocking DDR3 platform for this very reason one on Ivy other on HW. They said that wont upgrade till prices go down.
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On board for Ryzen 2. 
But Your an AMD fan so thats different. Hard to jutyfy going from [email protected] and my other mate got [email protected] and all they are doing is just gaming. So for them to upgrade its 500 quid plus. Both went with pascal GPU updates instead after my advice.
What will give them more fps moving from 970s to 1080s or cpu upgrade
Mo 3rd mate upgraded from 2500k to my old 5820k cause got it off me for 400 quid board cpu and memory and that was year ago when I paid for Ryzen sidegrade 700 quid
Just to be clear, the is Global Foundries talk, given they are glorified printers; not CPU architecture designers / engineers... what they are talking about is the ideal operating frequency on the designs printed on a slab of glass.
14nm LP was 3Ghz (Ryzen 1700 base clock) so add 40% to that, you get 4.2Ghz, of course AMD have designs in their architecture and a bit tweaking which stretch that, the Ryzen 1800X ran 3.7Ghz all cores and more on less out of the box, 12nm according to Global Foundries was meant to be 10% faster, the 2700X runs at about 4.05 to 4.15Ghz on all cores out of the box, that's your 10%, or just a little more.
14nm LP was 3Ghz (Ryzen 1700 base clock) so add 40% to that, you get 4.2Ghz, of course AMD have designs in their architecture and a bit tweaking which stretch that, the Ryzen 1800X ran 3.7Ghz all cores and more on less out of the box, 12nm according to Global Foundries was meant to be 10% faster, the 2700X runs at about 4.05 to 4.15Ghz on all cores out of the box, that's your 10%, or just a little more.
Forget ddr4 prices, have they seen gpu prices. £450 now gets you a mid to upper range gpu. Couple of years ago you could get 1080 equivalent 780 for less around launch. My third party wf3 780 was 420 new. 1080 620 less than a month after launch.
But Your an AMD fan so thats different. Hard to jutyfy going from [email protected] and my other mate got [email protected] and all they are doing is just gaming. So for them to upgrade its 500 quid plus. Both went with pascal GPU updates instead after my advice.
What will give them more fps moving from 970s to 1080s or cpu upgrade
Mo 3rd mate upgraded from 2500k to my old 5820k cause got it off me for 400 quid board cpu and memory and that was year ago when I paid for Ryzen sidegrade 700 quid
I'm a hardware fan, i own whatever makes the most sense to me, that was Intel, its now Ryzen, it still is nVidia on the GPU's side.
I say that because when pepole get labbled "fans" it can often have negative meaning, AMD fanboys don't spend £200 on Intel and £400 on nVidia hardware... like i did.
Just because i own Ryzen now doesn't make me anything more that someone looking for the best hardware for his money.
And little earlier, they could get the top of the line GTX 280 for 250ish US dollars, and its AMD equivalent Radeon HD 4890 for LESS than 200 US dollars
Long live the mining
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That's Ryzen+ already released
Then, Spring 2019, but that will be Ryzen 5/7 3000 series. So, effectively Ryzen 3.
Bingo. I would have upgraded by now if it wasn't for the price of ram I won't pay it therefore I'm happy to wait for Zen 2.
What if the prices never come down?
This is what I'm trying to hint - they are exploiting the market now because there is again a more serious upgrade interest in consumers.
Just no, us 'consumers' make up a tiny, incy wincy amount of the yearly global DRAM sales. You need to look at all the other applications that consume RAM, not a few desktop PC's. Consider this for ever datacenter server sold, with 128-256GB or RAM, you need to sell 16 to 32 (8GB) RAM modules, that is just one small example.
Then I'll wait for as long I can. If my rig blows u tomorrow then I'll upgrade but I won't just upgrade for the sake of it especially when what I have currently does what I need it too.
Current prices are nonsense and they only charge it because they know people will pay it. I won't.
In about 2006 i bought 2x1Gb sticks of OCZ Flex PC2 9600. At the time i think the pair were about £160. High ram prices are nothing new and to be honest go with the territory if you want to stay near to "the cutting edge". Ram prices at the moment though do seem to have stayed high for a very long time, which suggests something iffy. The price rigging that is being looked into may well tell us a lot.
The thing is though, that £160 i paid in 2006 in real terms is much higher than we are paying now for 2x8Gb of B-die.
The thing is though, that £160 i paid in 2006 in real terms is much higher than we are paying now for 2x8Gb of B-die.
Was that back when they got caught rigging the market? Or was that also due to mobile phone demand too?
I could actually understand if their was an actual shortage and their profit margins hadn't increased as much as ram pricing, as it stands I could quite easily buy 20 kits if I wanted to so ram is clearly available, unlike the recent gpu mining craze.
DRAM makers sued (yet again) for 'fixing prices' (yet again) of chips https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/30/dram_vendors_sued_again_for_price_fixing_again/
Timespy has Graphics and CPU tests, no combined. It's the combined in Firestrike that Ryzen is horrendous in so you can't say it's better in Timespy because there's literally no test for it.