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Ryzen "2" ?

opethdisciple said:
Memory + Ryzen = Nightmare mode.
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If I was upgrading now, as much as I'd like to support AMD, this would be putting me off.

I just want plug and play...if I buy 3200 or greater ram, I want it to run at that speed.

Luckily my X5650 is more than ample at the moment.

Maybe AMD will have memory issues sorted for the next Ryzen generation.
 
Kelt said:
If I was upgrading now, as much as I'd like to support AMD, this would be putting me off.

I just want plug and play...if I buy 3200 or greater ram, I want it to run at that speed.

Luckily my X5650 is more than ample at the moment.

Maybe AMD will have memory issues sorted for the next Ryzen generation.
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With some tinkering you can get close and from what I've read that once you hit 3400 it's more about timings anyway.

I'd say it's certainly a more advanced build and could be tricky for someone without experience to work out, when you're computer fails to boot because you selected a xmp profile.
 
Got to be honest, Ryzen had been plug and play for me on the new x470 platform. Lots of tweaking options, but docp at 3200 14 timings on 8 pack ram just worked!
Currently got it up to 3400 with same timings so fortunately for me I have no complaints
 
I think I've found the problem... and it could be a boo-boo on my part.

My RAM is Teamgroup Vulcan T-Force 3200MHz. It's C16 - 16-18-18-36 timings. As there are kits with much tighter timings, do I assume that I've not bought entirely the best RAM? I'm running 3000MHz at present, but with slacker timings still.
Am I best off taking the hit and getting some 8Pack instead? This is doing my head in!
 
i got a 2600 with an asus x470 motherboard last weekend, i only went for the teamgroup 2400mhz ram
as the pc was only going to be for low end use.

i had a nightmare, fan headers packing up, bluescreens and lockups at about a rate of 3 an hour, usb's cutting
out and then back in, one device just not working.

so, i played and i adjusted and i altered settings over 3 days, come tuesday i threw the towel in and decided to
re-install windows (again) and strart from scratch, i really had altered that many things it seems like the best path.

just one thing, i had held off from installing the latest windows update until i had got things working, so decided to give it
a shot before i re did windows.

night and day, the pc was almost perfect, its monday now so a week in really and not one blue screen/ lockup or crash, apart
from the same one usb device i have they no longer drop out, nor do the fans.

now confidence has grown i have had a little tweak or 2, the ram is good at its 2400 speed and the asus auto overclock did a
14% increase so i am now around the 2600x and all is great.

just to add, i held off from the update due to the reports of lock ups, instead of creating this problem it seems to have had the
opposite effect.
 
I'm a little concerned now, my RAM is this 3200Mhz 16-18-18-36-2T kit and i know it is Hynix..

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...l-channel-kit-cmd16gx4m2b3200c-my-468-cs.html

Currently running it at 3000Mhz 15-17-17-35-1T on a 6700k as it wont boot at 3200Mhz.

I was gona switch to a 2700x from my 6700k this week but i dont fancy the ballache of RAM issues.. is anyone running this RAM with a 2700x and which speed is it running at?

I was looking at this board for the 2700x too..

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...ocket-am4-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-33n-ms.html

Cheers :)
 
MyBrains said:
I'm a little concerned now, my RAM is this 3200Mhz 16-18-18-36-2T kit and i know it is Hynix..

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...l-channel-kit-cmd16gx4m2b3200c-my-468-cs.html

Currently running it at 3000Mhz 15-17-17-35-1T on a 6700k as it wont boot at 3200Mhz.

I was gona switch to a 2700x from my 6700k this week but i dont fancy the ballache of RAM issues.. is anyone running this RAM with a 2700x and which speed is it running at?

I was looking at this board for the 2700x too..

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...ocket-am4-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-33n-ms.html

Cheers :)
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Just to note, Not all have had issues.

Built 3 systems with Hynix based ram. 1 kingston hyperx kit(mine) 2 with corsair lpx(friends). All worked fine at 3200 rated speeds via xmp.

Theses was on giga boards . 1 x370 the other 2 where b350's

To be honest mine didn't when I bought mine at launch, wasn't until the F4 bios released (June iirc)

Others where out of the box but they where purchased August/September time.
 
wakadoo said:
just to add, i held off from the update due to the reports of lock ups, instead of creating this problem it seems to have had the
opposite effect.
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Saw someone having a very similar experience with a 1600 last year. His Windows disk was about as old as W10 disks get. Bluescreens were always about timers or clocks or some such. Downloaded the latest image from MS and the problems vanished. Ryzen, it turns out, is not very compatible with the early editions of Win 10!
 
MyBrains said:
I'm a little concerned now, my RAM is this 3200Mhz 16-18-18-36-2T kit and i know it is Hynix..
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It will certainly run. It may not run at 3200, but on an X470 you'll have less problems than last year's adopters. I doubt you'd get worse than 2933.

Totally different note, are you sure you want a board that puts the main m.2 slot behind your gpu heatsink? Asking because mine runs 67 degrees when gaming with a similar layout :(
 
As windows 10 is supposed to upgrade itself as new versions come out it should not matter one bit about what age or version your disk is..
We have had many an update to the OS since its release, if folk aint doing them and have crap unstable PCs then its there fault.

Not saying recent patched win10 builds are perfect though...lol heck no but they 10 now is a lot better than 10 on release.
 
sideways14a said:
As windows 10 is supposed to upgrade itself as new versions come out it should not matter one bit about what age or version your disk is.
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It's the time between install and update that's the problem, especially if you're doing an offline install for whatever reason.

More than anything I just find it interesting than Windows itself can be the cause of bluescreens. Chipset drivers (or lack of) maybe?
 
pete910 said:
Just to note, Not all have had issues.

Built 3 systems with Hynix based ram. 1 kingston hyperx kit(mine) 2 with corsair lpx(friends). All worked fine at 3200 rated speeds via xmp.

Theses was on giga boards . 1 x370 the other 2 where b350's

To be honest mine didn't when I bought mine at launch, wasn't until the F4 bios released (June iirc)

Others where out of the box but they where purchased August/September time.
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Thanks, will go for it and hope for the best.. around the 3000Mhz mark isnt too shabby anyway, i just want to play games and stream sometimes :)

eddiew said:
It will certainly run. It may not run at 3200, but on an X470 you'll have less problems than last year's adopters. I doubt you'd get worse than 2933.

Totally different note, are you sure you want a board that puts the main m.2 slot behind your gpu heatsink? Asking because mine runs 67 degrees when gaming with a similar layout :(
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Thats a good point you made about the M.2 slot..i do have a fan at the bottom of the case and another at the front bringing air in, i wanted a change back to MSI from my current ASUS Mobo as i rarely had issues when i used MSI for my Intel 2700k. I'll have to rethink as i was looking into getting a second M.2 SSD aswell. I just dont wana go over £175ish for the Mobo so i picked the best MSI board there, i like the CMOS reset on the back, i also wanted to go back to the MSI BIOS that i have been used to previously.

You have deffo brought this to my attention though, i didnt realise how high up that slot is and it will sit right behind the GPU. Is that heatsink gona be able to do anything is the next question.

Cheers :)
 
MyBrains said:
i didnt realise how high up that slot is and it will sit right behind the GPU.
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It's an awful, awful design, imho. Gigabyte use it a lot, and having experience of it with "just" a 1060 superclocked, I would never consider any board that puts the drive behind the GPU again. I know my 960 Pro is a hot runner by nature, but it gets within 3 degrees of throttling from gaming alone, and that's really not acceptable. I bet it would drop 10-20 degrees away from the GPU, more with a heatsink.

Failing anything cool being announced at Computex, I'll pick up a CH7 in a couple of weeks, which mounts one drive above the GPU, and one way down low. Or maybe a tiny Strix ITX...
 
eddiew said:
It's an awful, awful design, imho. Gigabyte use it a lot, and having experience of it with "just" a 1060 superclocked, I would never consider any board that puts the drive behind the GPU again. I know my 960 Pro is a hot runner by nature, but it gets within 3 degrees of throttling from gaming alone, and that's really not acceptable. I bet it would drop 10-20 degrees away from the GPU, more with a heatsink.

Failing anything cool being announced at Computex, I'll pick up a CH7 in a couple of weeks, which mounts one drive above the GPU, and one way down low. Or maybe a tiny Strix ITX...
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I wana make a purchase this week if i can, maybe i'll just buy an adapter and use the bottom PCIe slot, it says '1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 slot (PCI_E5, supports x4 mode) so im gona guess thats what i need for full speed of the M.2. Was hoping to pick up a Sammy 970 EVO at a later date to replace the 960 EVO which i'll maybe put into a second build at some point.

Will the bottom M.2 slot have the same speed as the top M.2 slot?

This is getting confusing now lol
 
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