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Ryzen "2" ?
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Thanks mate. On my board it's called Core Performance Boost. It was set to Auto so I figured it was enabled, but I just changed it from Auto to Enabled. It may have done something as my Cinebench first run was 1780. CPU-Z benchmark single core score is now coming in at 483 when it was 440 before. Another possible explanation is the fact it's a bit cooler today so the CPU was boosting higher but I don't think this is the case as Task Manager still reports it as 4GHz.
Yeah, my timings are a bit crap, they're 16-18-18-36. Unfortunately with the RAM prices as they are right now I couldn't justify buying any new stuff so just opted to recycle the RAM from my 'old' build.
Cinebench single core doesn't seem to be going anywhere over 3.8GHz here for some reason which is odd when the all core bench is boosting to 4GHz. I'll investigate that.
So now multi core performance at least seems to be exactly where it should be so I'm happy with that. My last question for now is what should the idle clocks be? I built a Ryzen 3 2200G system which also went very smoothly indeed and that's running nicely. The CPU drops down to 1.6GHz at idle which is fine but my 2700X never seems to go below 2.15GHz at idle. I've switched back to the default Windows balanced profile. Is this normal, or do I have something running in the background that's always spiking it up a bit?
Edit: Switched Core Performance Boost back to Auto and I'm still getting the same decent scores so I have no idea why it was lower the other night. Also tried WinRAR's benchmark in single core mode and saw 4.25GHz there so that's fine. Last question is about the 2.15GHz idle speed for now then
The idle speed is normal. All the Ryzen chips I've had have sat just above 2GHz when idle.
Incidentally, by Asus' naming scheme 'Core Performance Boost' is just the standard AMD boosting behaviour. It should make no difference whether it's at 'Auto' or 'Enabled' unless you're messing with the base clock. I found that when tweaking that, 'Auto' became 'Disabled' and the chip would sit at just above 3.7GHz max until I forced it on. There's also the 'Performance Enhancer' option, which tweaks boosting behaviour to maintain higher clocks for longer.
Incidentally, by Asus' naming scheme 'Core Performance Boost' is just the standard AMD boosting behaviour. It should make no difference whether it's at 'Auto' or 'Enabled' unless you're messing with the base clock. I found that when tweaking that, 'Auto' became 'Disabled' and the chip would sit at just above 3.7GHz max until I forced it on. There's also the 'Performance Enhancer' option, which tweaks boosting behaviour to maintain higher clocks for longer.
Soldato
Actually it does make a difference whether it's "Auto or Enabled" It especially makes a difference when you are overclocking ram. The Auto setting just does a re-start when you change ram settings. The enable setting does a complete re-boot and ram training...............................much better in my mind because that's what will happen anyway when you boot from a cold boot.
Caporegime
Caporegime
Good review of B450 boards.
MSI Tomahawk is best, don't buy the Gigabyte Aorus Pro, its crap.
MSI Tomahawk is best, don't buy the Gigabyte Aorus Pro, its crap.
Caporegime
It seems the MSI and ASRock boards look the best out of the bunch that channel tested,it appears.
Ooh this looks nice, wiat, oh yeah
Can always dream though ^^
Also a bit hard to put in a mini-ITX rig too!!
Caporegime
It seems the MSI and ASRock boards look the best out of the bunch that channel tested,it appears.
Also a bit hard to put in a mini-ITX rig too!!
Buildzoid was right about the Aorus board, but wrong about all the others, including my board, who would have known
I think the MSI is a 4 phase CPU VRM, as is the Aorus but there is a difference between them, the MSI board has 2 high side MosFets per inductor so 8 total, the Aorus has 8 Inductors but only 1 high side MosFet per pair with a doubler, so 4 high side MosFets, that's why the Aorus VRMs run at 120c where as the MSI VRM only runs at 85c under the same conditions, its the high side MosFets that take all the load and the MSI board has twice as many.
Checkout what he said here... https://youtu.be/EqQcgwz1hYA?t=3m25s
So my Board has not changed, its just a different colour, Buildzoid was scathing about its VRM design and yet its not bad at all, its better than the Asus Gaming F and a lot better than the Gigabyte.
(ASRocK Gaming K4 is the same board)
The best board tho is the MSI, it also has a BIOS flash button.
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Caporegime
I think the main issue with the Asus and Gigabyte boards were the VRM heatsinks just being pieces of metal with poor fin design,then covered by a massive plastic sheath. It means the heat gets trapped and has nowhere to go.
Caporegime
No i think there is more to it than that, below is the Asus B350 Gaming-F, see again the High Side MosFets, there are only 4, just like the Aorus Pro.
The MSI has 8, the ASRock has 6, both run much cooler VRMs than the Asus and Gigabyte boards, much cooler, the plastic on the Asus and Gigabyte boards may play a small part in it but look at the ASRock VRM HS, its puny and yet the VRMs are cool.
IMO its because the high current load is being spread across 8 MosFets or 6 on the ASRock vs 4 on the Asus and Gigabyte boards.
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Buildzoids problem has been them "ALL" marketing them as higher phases then they actually are in which I agree with him.
Caporegime
The thing is it it isn't a new thing for AMD boards to have had 4+4 phase VRM arrangements(many Gigabytes used them even 7 years to 8 years ago) and so on,as even on here and elsewhere back in the day,there was much discussion about it. Its nothing really new - its more important to know which ones will do the job and which ones won't.
If its not new it doesnt make it ok to mismarket a product, I have noticed a few youtubers now suddenly deciding to test low end boards, its suddenly became fashionable like the sheep are following each other, but it is needed attention as lately the manufacturers have only been caring about the king of the hill boards.
Soldato
Having watched tonights OCNET benchmarks on a big lineup of AM4 boards, as long as somehow someone can keep cool the VRMs, even the tiny B450-I can overclock the 2700X to 4.2
Ofc the X470-I can clock it to 4.4!!! But we need damn monoblocks going there. Yet at least 4 phases can play nicely on the 6 and less core CPUs.
As long as someone doesn't try to pull another der8auer trick, by plugging an Elmor EVC to bypass power settings, while pouring Novec on the VRMs to keep them cool
Ofc the X470-I can clock it to 4.4!!! But we need damn monoblocks going there. Yet at least 4 phases can play nicely on the 6 and less core CPUs.
As long as someone doesn't try to pull another der8auer trick, by plugging an Elmor EVC to bypass power settings, while pouring Novec on the VRMs to keep them cool
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Does nobody do any custom heatpipe heatsinks for such boards, I find it kind of odd it's been a problem over the last 10 years yet nobody makes them.
Even like a 4 heatpipe jobbie with a thin fin stack that sits infront of the cpu cooler collecting the Air through that for example.
The Mind boggles, has this not been done before like a universal kit etc have drill can fit ?
Soldato
What you are describing used to come with DFI mobo's as a matter of course. NF2, P35, P45 and the X58. They all worked brilliant and even better when you clipped a small 40mm fan over them. I doubt they added more than £5 to the cost of a mobo, but were worth every penny.
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Those were the days! I used to love DFI and abit.
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Yep, same here. The first mobo i had that you could seriously mess around with ram timings was an Abit Max2.................it was a great learning curve for the brilliant DFI Lanparty NF7............................easily one of the best mobo's that has ever existed.