You are right. With 100% certainty, AMD will keep the best chips for higher models - Ryzen 7 2800 maybe and Ryzen Threadripper
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You are right. With 100% certainty, AMD will keep the best chips for higher models - Ryzen 7 2800 maybe and Ryzen Threadripper
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How do the 2200g and 2400g graphics compare to dedicated graphics cards? I'd like to upgrade in the near future and like to keep to the itx format.
The games I play are not high demanding new titles and currently have a passively cooled 750ti.
I mostly use my PC for media watching and photo editing.
The games I play are not high demanding new titles and currently have a passively cooled 750ti.
I mostly use my PC for media watching and photo editing.
Its a little faster than a GTX 1030 so not much grunt in there, your 750ti is considerably faster. Its not so much the games you use but rather than resolution you are running them at granted older games will fair better specially games from 2010 backwards.
GT 1030 or RX 550.
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2600 and 2600X being listed at a major Canadian PC retailer.
YD2600BBAFBOX - $259.99 (CAD) = £141.73 (£170 inc VAT)
YD260XBCAFBOX - $316.99 (CAD) = £172.81 (207 inc VAT)
For comparison, their prices for a couple of already released CPU's seem to be in line with what we're paying over here.
2400G - $212.99 (CAD) = £116.13 (£139 inc VAT)
1500X - $220.99 (CAD) = £120.49 (£144 inc VAT)
So the refresh parts are coming in very close to the current price points of the CPU's they are replacing.
YD2600BBAFBOX - $259.99 (CAD) = £141.73 (£170 inc VAT)
YD260XBCAFBOX - $316.99 (CAD) = £172.81 (207 inc VAT)
For comparison, their prices for a couple of already released CPU's seem to be in line with what we're paying over here.
2400G - $212.99 (CAD) = £116.13 (£139 inc VAT)
1500X - $220.99 (CAD) = £120.49 (£144 inc VAT)
So the refresh parts are coming in very close to the current price points of the CPU's they are replacing.
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Doubt it will be long but... seems not. The various vendor pages were up then down (as is tradition). Not back up yet. Give it till Wednesday and release date (19th April) is officially announced.
I see. Last year story should repeat.
The current lineup will become even cheaper and sell until the quantities are depleted.
It seems that price increases are not justified. Advanced Micro Devices will enjoy more sales while the prices are lower.
Yeah makes sense I just expected something around the last launch prices. Not complaining though.
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If true then its great to see them become cheaper.
I recon the 2800 is only a couple of months away, being saved for a big clocks release to counter intel - with a much higher price than the rest of the range.
I recon the 2800 is only a couple of months away, being saved for a big clocks release to counter intel - with a much higher price than the rest of the range.
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I can't see them holding a 2800(X) back with bigger clocks to launch with the new Threadripper stuff. If anything I think they will maintain current clocks but stick a few more cores onto it and then it will be a real crossover chip, AM4 platform but like a "diet" threadripper.
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The rumour was that the new 2700X was to be faster than the previous 1800X and less expensive than the 1700X.
Also this time all CPUs will come with the AMD cooler.
I'm very tempted to pull my 1700 out and go for a 2700X, especially if it's capable of clocking to 4.4GHz as has been speculated. Of course we will only truly know when they launch and I have so many other things I need to pay for.
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Nawp i still think a 2800 is due, with nice fat clocks maybe even needing a non AMD cooler setup - i mean, its a new process for them... prob stock piling a few high speed chips.
Well its what i would do, would take intels response out straight away.
Well its what i would do, would take intels response out straight away.
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Last time around Intel didn't have mainstream 6/8 core CPU's, and the 1800X was competing with the £1000 CPU HEDT platform. So coming in at £500 was still a bargain. Now that Intel have the 8700K AMD have to price accordingly. So pricing a 2700X with an additional 2C/4T and slightly less single threaded performance at the same level as the 8700K (~£350) makes sense now. And as such all the lower end CPU's follow suit. Hurrah for actual competition!
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That's the common consensus. That AMD are binning their best chips to launch as 2800X. Obviously they wouldn't announce this as it would cannibalise sales of 2700X.
As the process matures and more reliable chips can be produced then that's when I expect to see a 2800X appear.
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Which is slightly infuriating when you're poised to buy the next gen but then end up doing like you do with Nvidia cards, waiting until 6 months after launch to buy the best one they will offer (reference to X80 and X80Ti there).
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Think of it this way. You are avoiding all of the early adopter teething troubles and are pretty much guaranteed a better chip due to improvements to manufacturing process.
I'm the same with games now. I'd never buy a launch title because I know it will be bored and need extensive patching.
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AMD Ryzen 7 2700X and Ryzen 5 2600 get detailed in leaked review, available from April 19 https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-R...-review-available-from-April-19.289396.0.html
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X and Ryzen 5 2600 get detailed in leaked review, available from April 19 https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-R...-review-available-from-April-19.289396.0.html
- Cache and Memory Transfer — A high 20-30% increase in bandwidth increase across L1D/L2/L3 caches is seen with the 2700X. Memory bandwidth showed a modest 2% increase at the same memory clock as the 1700X indicating memory controller improvements. Faster DDR4 memory should help in posting higher scores.
- .NET Arithmetic — The 2700X posted up to 20% higher performance compared to Ryzen 1700X in both integer (Dhrystone) and floating point operations (Whetstone).
- .NET Vectorised — Ryzen 2 is 9-12% faster than Ryzen 1 and has at least 2x the performance of the 6700K suggesting strong multi-core SIMD performance.
- Java Arithmetic — Ryzen 2 is able to post strong Java integer (Dhrystone) and Java floating point (Whetstone) scores ranging 7-13% higher than Ryzen 1.
- Java Vectorised — The Java Virtual Machine (JVM) cannot yet support native SIMD translation like .NET but Ryzen 2 still manages to have a 15% lead over Ryzen 1.
- Financial Analysis Native — The Ryzen 7 2700X posts an impressive 23-28% higher scores than its predecessor. Intel had a tough time keeping pace with the Ryzens in this test.