Ryzen "2" ?

4K8KW10 · 17 Mar 2018 at 09:30

Four everywhere:

Ryzen 7 2700X
up to 4.4 GHz
up to 4000 MHz DDR4 memory
400 MHz higher than Ryzen 1
refined 14nm+ process node

eddiew · 17 Mar 2018 at 09:36

4K8KW10 said:
Four everywhere:

This can only mean one thing! The astrologer was right!

C-Roy · 17 Mar 2018 at 09:45

4000mhz ddr4 as well, missed that.

Steveocee · 17 Mar 2018 at 10:03

4.4Ghz on a 2700X sounds doable if it’s all core boost is 4.35.

4K8KW10 · 17 Mar 2018 at 10:05

C-Roy said:
4000mhz ddr4 as well, missed that.

This achievement of DDR4 4000 is much more important than the 4.4GHz.

DragonQ · 17 Mar 2018 at 10:15

HeX said:
You also have to remember that Ryzen has better IPC than Sandy Bridge, a 4.4GHz Ryzen is probably near enough equivalent to a 5GHz 2600K.

I'd expect the Ryzen to be decently ahead at those clock speeds.

4K8KW10 said:
This achievement of DDR4 4000 is much more important than the 4.4GHz.

We don't know that for sure. I doubt there are any benchmarks of original Ryzen going that high since it just wasn't possible, so we don't know if using RAM speeds beyond 3200-3466 MHz still increases performance. It may well do.

andy_mk3 · 17 Mar 2018 at 11:17

HeX said:
You also have to remember that Ryzen has better IPC than Sandy Bridge, a 4.4GHz Ryzen is probably near enough equivalent to a 5GHz 2600K.

My thoughts exactly

a lot of games pin all 8 of my threads to 100%, so it's definitely becoming a bottleneck.

Sumanji · 17 Mar 2018 at 16:16

4K8KW10 said:
Four everywhere:

Ryzen 7 2700X
up to 4.4 GHz
up to 4000 MHz DDR4 memory
400 MHz higher than Ryzen 1
refined 14nm+ process node

Half-Life 4: confirmed

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 17 Mar 2018 at 16:36

Sumanji said:
Half-Life 4: confirmed

https://www.pcgamer.com/gabe-newell-hooray-valves-going-to-start-shipping-games-again/

GabeN said:
Gabe Newell: 'Hooray! Valve's going to start shipping games again'

humbug · 17 Mar 2018 at 16:42

Sumanji said:
Half-Life 4: confirmed

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
https://www.pcgamer.com/gabe-newell-hooray-valves-going-to-start-shipping-games-again/

WOOOOOOOOO

Scougar · 17 Mar 2018 at 20:05

Everyone is happy at 4000mhz, but will it cause issues at that speed like previously?

DragonQ · 17 Mar 2018 at 20:31

Scougar said:
Everyone is happy at 4000mhz, but will it cause issues at that speed like previously?

The source I read said the new "norm" is 3600 MHz, with 4000 MHz possible with Samsung B-die.

Sumanji · 17 Mar 2018 at 21:04

Ryzen noob Q here; is there benefit from running higher speed RAM at the same CPU clock speed?

If so, what is the approx range of performance gain (e.g. if I add +33% RAM speed going from 2400MHz to 3200MHz, what corresponding range in performance increase could you expect?). Realize that's a multi-variable question, but want to understand how meaningful it is.

humbug · 17 Mar 2018 at 21:06

Sumanji said:
Ryzen noob Q here; is there benefit from running higher speed RAM at the same CPU clock speed?

If so, what is the approx range of performance gain (e.g. if I add +33% RAM speed going from 2400MHz to 3200MHz, what corresponding range in performance increase could you expect?). Realize that's a multi-variable question, but want to understand how meaningful it is.

Gaming performance...

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/ryzen-1-memory-scaling-testing.18813342/

4K8KW10 · 17 Mar 2018 at 21:08

Sumanji said:
Ryzen noob Q here; is there benefit from running higher speed RAM at the same CPU clock speed?

If so, what is the approx range of performance gain (e.g. if I add +33% RAM speed going from 2400MHz to 3200MHz, what corresponding range in performance increase could you expect?). Realize that's a multi-variable question, but want to understand how meaningful it is.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_7_memory_and_tweaking_analysis_review,9.html

Mercutio · 17 Mar 2018 at 21:40

Any sightings of the 2800X yet?

Still not sure what I'll be buying (chip+board wise, MSI were about the best all-rounder last time I think, 2700X if the 2800 proves elusive)

Mercutio · 17 Mar 2018 at 21:43

humbug said:
IPC is 5 or 6% higher on Ryzen + / 2 call it what one will.

Ryzen 2/Zen+/Pinnacle Ridge

Sumanji · 17 Mar 2018 at 21:52

humbug said:
Gaming performance...

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/ryzen-1-memory-scaling-testing.18813342/

4K8KW10 said:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_7_memory_and_tweaking_analysis_review,9.html

Thanks both!

humbug · 18 Mar 2018 at 15:55

I've just had an idea as to why there is no 2800X, yet. AMD are waiting to see what Intel do with their Z390 8 core, with that the 2800X could be higher clocked than the 2700X.

DragonQ · 18 Mar 2018 at 16:07

humbug said:
I've just had an idea as to why there is no 2800X, yet. AMD are waiting to see what Intel do with their Z390 8 core, with that the 2800X could be higher clocked than the 2700X.

Well we'll know if that's the case when people get hold of R7 2700Xs and see how high they can clock. If there's no headroom then don't expect an R7 2800X.