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Ryzen 2600 vs Core i9 7800X in 37 game benchmark.

humbug said:
No its actually 22% for Cinebench MT and 4% ST



Yes, are Anand-tech now also wrong? do we only believe what AMD say above all others when it suits us?
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Given the other results, this would go down as an outlier by any reasonable person. You're ignoring every single other result that doesn't support what you've said.

Everytime you talk about Ryzen, it gets faster and faster and faster.
 
amd said it was 3 percent different over the older ryzens.many others have.what i never got is this was known well before the new ryzens were out.so ryzens in general in games are atleast 10 percent behind in most games sometimes more even at stock.intel have better gaming cpus. i own ryzen and intel systems.i even said what the difference was before they released for both single and multi.
 
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I Still have a Ryzen 1600 and i'm willing to do a clock for clock comparison, but not from you, that trust is gone and before you react to that i trusted Gavin87 the first time round.
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Trust is gone? Don't be so dramatic. My run was no less genuine than your run was. You just can't accept you're not right.

Why would I talk down stuff I own?
 
Martini1991 said:
Given the other results, this would go down as an outlier by any reasonable person.

Everytime you talk about Ryzen, it gets faster and faster and faster.
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Well i don't think its as high as 22% but it is higher than a few % and Cinebench being Floating Point is indicative of memory intensive workloads, that includes gaming.

Anyway... the 1305 one was at the speed you see in my signature, its my 24/7 clock, 3.9Ghz / 3066Mhz.

The 1324 one was done at 3.975Ghz

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Let me srop this crap talk booting up at 3950 with my 2700x will run cb15 mt and st same 3466cl15 setting as my 1700x was same everything besides cpu.

You can add around 10 points in MT on cb15 score due to 17666 version of windows with spectre fixes ect over fastest windows 10 build to date aka 17025
 
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Same memory same timings same bios settings/volts
Its profile I had left from my 1700x cpu when i swapped it out to 2700x as a Basic STABLE to go on from on new cpu. So this is Closest comparrison one will get.

You can see its accurate compared to linked CB score above where 4ghz gives 164 on 1800x :)
There is 2% MAXIMUM IPC gain due to cache ect




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8 Pack said:
No I mean default speed.
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Themn tests are so messed up around internet if it goes for memory.
As i see it if i was to compare 8700 vs 2700x. I would go with 3466cl14 for Zen+ and 4133cl18 for 8700k. So both systems running at same memory 8pack memory kit. Upper tier but not best. so far after weeks of playing around thats what everyine will get on Ryzen with good kit. 3533 is pushing infinity fabric and not all cpus can opull it off stable.

Most tests of 8700ks i see are with some 3200-3600 memories. If one buys ione of those HE WILL drop extra 15 quid to get memories rated above 4000 when ya paying over 200 to start with ;)

Like when Ya started playing around with 8700 did proper memory speed impact test. Shame I dont have second system with [email protected] and 4133 kit to see how low can it go with 1.45 in to DDR for daily use and fan blowing at them like I'w got on zen.

Fan blower on ddr = 133mhz extra stable on Ryzen confirmed :) 4 of us on OCN got fan on haha Thermal signal noise reduction does the trick when we ware getting error around 2000-3000% memtest adeed fan gets u 10k% pass error free :)
 
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humbug said:
4000Mhz vs 3400Mhz memory makes almost 0 difference to the 8700K.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews...e_Lake_Memory_Performance_Benchmark_Analysis/

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MAybe have a look at 8pack tests besfore posting crap or even better maybe check the damn thing you posted ??


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I know u are tight ass but i WILL pay extra 10-15 quid for 1fps in some situations.
If we are comparing Top amd Mainstream cpu with top memory setting its only logical to compare top intel mainstream with top memory. Does not matter if its 0.0001% difference TOP option vs Top option. Especially in both cases SAME MEMORY KIT woul;d be used.

It is OVERCLOCKERS forum ot pc world/currys forum ??
 
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Zeed said:
MAybe have a look at 8pack tests besfore posting crap or even better maybe check the damn thing you posted ??


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I know u are tight ass but i WILL pay extra 10-15 quid for 1fps in some situations.
If we are comparing Top amd Mainstream cpu with top memory setting its only logical to compare top intel mainstream with top memory. Does not matter if its 0.0001% difference TOP option vs Top option. Especially in both cases SAME MEMORY KIT woul;d be used.

It is OVERCLOCKERS forum ot pc world/currys forum ??
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I cannot believe you posted those slides and told me to look at them, as if to say they prove me wrong.

Tell me if my eye sight is deceiving me because what i see between 3200Mhz and 4000Mhz is, from the bottom up, relative performance.

3200: 101.5%
4000: 100.5%

3200: 140 FPS
4000: 137 FPS

3200: 104 FPS
4000: 103 FPS

Margins of error "almost 0 difference" no?

Anything above 3200/3400 is a placebo, you think it makes a difference, to such an extent as to post slides to prove it without even looking at them... but in fact makes no difference what-so-ever. seriously what?
 
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