I agree much like the 11900K at £559 is a joke for 8 cores, actually probably even more of a joke
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Ryzen 5600x vs 10700KF /10900KF
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The current price of the £299 for 5600x now that there is more options from Intel and their prices of the previous gen are much lower generally. The 5600x really needs to drop to the £249 mark to be at a price point I would look at considering one currently. If you are looking for price to performance at moment under £300 then the 10700FK at £279 is what you should look at in my view. The 10700KF trades blows for the most part with the 5600x and so there is zero reason to be paying that additional £50 markup for AMD.
If you are closer to the £329 mark anyways the additional £20 for the 10850k would be worth it still with it being a 10-core CPU that should age better than the 5600x with only 6 cores if you planning to hold out for another half decade with it. Bearing in mind the price for these chips have both dropped by around £80 to make room for the new Intel chips which is why their value is much better than was previous where the 5600x and 5800x would have been the better recommendation about 4-5months back if you could have got one.
Edit: And if you are wanting the all out fastest gaming CPU then the 5800x is currently the choice at £419 compared to Intels offerings currently and what we know in regards to the 11700KF & 11900KF with the 5800x beating out the 11700KF and not 100% on 11900KF but with all comments and such to date suggests they at best trade blows the Intel parts are either not at same performance or valued too high for this current gen with the 11900KF coming in around £519!
If you are closer to the £329 mark anyways the additional £20 for the 10850k would be worth it still with it being a 10-core CPU that should age better than the 5600x with only 6 cores if you planning to hold out for another half decade with it. Bearing in mind the price for these chips have both dropped by around £80 to make room for the new Intel chips which is why their value is much better than was previous where the 5600x and 5800x would have been the better recommendation about 4-5months back if you could have got one.
Edit: And if you are wanting the all out fastest gaming CPU then the 5800x is currently the choice at £419 compared to Intels offerings currently and what we know in regards to the 11700KF & 11900KF with the 5800x beating out the 11700KF and not 100% on 11900KF but with all comments and such to date suggests they at best trade blows the Intel parts are either not at same performance or valued too high for this current gen with the 11900KF coming in around £519!
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I think the 10850k might be worth it for £300, pre-owned, quite close to the 5800x in many games.
Comet Lake 10 core CPUs and the 5800x are both too expensive in my view.
Some people are still trying to scalp the 11700K on auction sites, even though it can be pre-ordered elsewhere, hope no one pays the premium.
Comet Lake 10 core CPUs and the 5800x are both too expensive in my view.
Some people are still trying to scalp the 11700K on auction sites, even though it can be pre-ordered elsewhere, hope no one pays the premium.
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The 5800X is readily available for ~£375 at the moment. Just not if you're shopping within the UK. Makes it more competitive with the 10850K/10900K value-wise, with the trade-off of two less cores offset by things like PCIe 4.0 support and a better upgrade path. Either's a better bet than Rocket Lake though. Anyone with any sense will be waiting for Alder Lake on the Intel side if they really want something new, especially with the confirmation that it can use DDR4 and won't require getting scalped on terrible early DDR5 kits.
From the AMD webstore (direct buy)?
All the products on there are out of stock (at least in the UK)...
I kind of think people are exaggerating when they say the 5800X is readily available, this only applies if you are willing to pay above RRP.
All the products on there are out of stock (at least in the UK)...
I kind of think people are exaggerating when they say the 5800X is readily available, this only applies if you are willing to pay above RRP.
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Nah it is deffo available at or below the RRP of £419.99. In fact OcUK has it in stock now at RRP.
The price on the AMD side is direct dollar convertion with Vat. So yeah kinda.
The listed RRP is £419.99 on stores and I believe that is the price set by AMD for UK retailers.
No. Obviously I can't and won't mention any competitors, but buying from Europe you can get one, right now as of this post, for £377 including all shipping and fees. And that's not even the cheapest it's been. The UK pricing is a joke.
grrrrr prices of 5600x just going up atm. Nonsense prices. It's gonna cost more than the 5800x soon.
alright it's not as crazy as GPU prices but I don't need a GPU, however I do need a CPU
Maybe I better snag a 3100 before they hit £300 as well.. oh wait, they're literally all out of stock.
So it's a £360 5600x or a £400 5800x... doesn't make sense.
alright it's not as crazy as GPU prices but I don't need a GPU, however I do need a CPU
Maybe I better snag a 3100 before they hit £300 as well.. oh wait, they're literally all out of stock.
So it's a £360 5600x or a £400 5800x... doesn't make sense.
grrrrr prices of 5600x just going up atm. Nonsense prices. It's gonna cost more than the 5800x soon.
alright it's not as crazy as GPU prices but I don't need a GPU, however I do need a CPU
Maybe I better snag a 3100 before they hit £300 as well.. oh wait, they're literally all out of stock.
So it's a £360 5600x or a £400 5800x... doesn't make sense.
You can get in stock a 5600x for £299 right now.
Intel is better value. The AMD hit squad are looking desperate to find one cheaper in as far as America lol.
I’ve heard you lot mention so many times “when Intel was faster” back then you were saying “but AMD is cheaper”. Now Intel are cheaper you can’t accept that.
It’s the same people every time.
Intel have better value at the minute. Do you lot get paid by AMD or something?
I’ve heard you lot mention so many times “when Intel was faster” back then you were saying “but AMD is cheaper”. Now Intel are cheaper you can’t accept that.
It’s the same people every time.
Intel have better value at the minute. Do you lot get paid by AMD or something?
IMO AMD deliberately overpriced the 5600X to try and upsell people to the 5800X and 5900X chips!
I suspect this is also the reason they still haven't released a 5600 (non-X) variant because it would be capable enough to tempty most buyers away from the top-tier chips
But if you look at the latest Intel Rocket Lake reviews it's clear AMD have no real competition at the moment so they can basically charge what they like!
I suspect this is also the reason they still haven't released a 5600 (non-X) variant because it would be capable enough to tempty most buyers away from the top-tier chips
But if you look at the latest Intel Rocket Lake reviews it's clear AMD have no real competition at the moment so they can basically charge what they like!
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Totally agree, intel is better value. Just annoys me when certain people (DG) was always saying buy intel because they were faster even though dearer, now AMD is faster he's saying buy intel because they're cheaper
I literally hit up google and never look further afield than the UK because I don't want to deal with import and time delays etc. However I do also agree that Intel for their previous gen 10X00 series is better value in the performance to cost ratio compared to any other lineup out that at moment. I just wanted to highlight that the cost for the chip can be found much closer to RRP. There were a good amount going for £285 a few days ago. They just sold out. They have also been as low as £275 in the last 2 months in UK. This morning £330 seems to be the going value you can find on a google search and in stock. However a few places are pre-ordering at £299 to £310 at moment again too.
Stock just changes hourly almost is problem tracking. I again would still pick a 10700KF over anything else right now for up to 10core options. If I wanted more cores than trying to snag a 5900x/5950x is still the best CPU out there for that if you can get ahold of one.
100% agree right up until you hit the £300+ mark, unless you don't keep your CPU's very long at all.
There are so many, IMO daft people, who'll buy something like a 10900K/10850K and have in 12-18 months and in this now fast moving CPU market have lost huge percentage of money on it when it comes time to sell, what is worse they'll only be playing games and see almost no benefit in most titles (as of now). A great deal of these people hide behind it has to be the fastest, but will scrimp on RAM, or a decent SSD etc.
The sensible short term use-case is a 6c/12t part, starting at about £120 for the 10400f, now paired with a B560 that can OC the RAM, and some decent 3200-3600 MHz RAM, total spend ~£250 or if you want to push the boat out ~£360 for the 10600KF, Z490 and the same RAM. You cannot beat that for value at all, anywhere. I've almost lost count of the number of 10400f systems I've put together in the past few months, it is almost as good as when the R5 3600 was ~£140.
Once you start looking at the £300+ CPU's, you need to be thinking long term again IMO, but since the CPU market is shifting so fast I'd want the platform that offers the best option to keep it longer, which is AM4, you can chose from a 4c/4t CPU all the way to a 16c/32t CPU and you've got the comfort of knowing if you buy a 5800X then there will be somewhere you can go without changing the whole system, drop in a 5900X, or 5950X, or maybe even a Zen 3+ CPU. If you are buying into LGA 1200 there's no point in 11th Gen (for games as far as we can tell atm), and 10th Gen is EOL as soon as you drop it in, so you are stuck with it or need to change the whole platform.
The person who bought the 10400f/10600k build in 12 months when Zen 4/Alder lake are available, is in the best position to change a whole platform with very little lost in those 12 months, yet they had 90-99% of the performance of the much more expensive system for those 12 months, that likely lost as much in value as they spent in the first place.
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Not to detract from the rest of your post but why would you plan to put yourself on a 12 month upgrade cycle?
I felt a little bad trying to justify upgrading after 4 years, if it's just 12 months, just save your money and wait.
I felt a little bad trying to justify upgrading after 4 years, if it's just 12 months, just save your money and wait.