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Ryzen 5800x 87c in Cinebench...

did an x with small blob in middle, can see it just slightly squeezing out each side.
idle is around 33 in a 23 ambient room, caseless setup
 
Do you think that they will fix any issues they can with a bios update within a month? It would be nice if they could before I decide to spend more money on a 5900x but it seems that the 5800x chip is hotter due to the way it has been pieced together.
 
In my bios I found I can enable a thermal limit below the stock one.
I have set it at 67 (actually will go to 69 according to HWinfo) and doesn't appear to have upset any games or 3DM/Unigene benchmarks, but loses a bit under 500 Cinebench points, clocks boost pretty similarly most of the time, maybe 100mhz less in Warzone.
 
PinkFloyd said:
Fit my 5800X today along with a new set of RAM. Like others, I'm finding things toasty!

Ryzen 7 5800x at stock settings
X570 I AORUS PRO WIFI
2x16GB Crucial Ballistix 3600MHz CL16
Noctua NH-L12S with full size 120mm fan on top of the cooler
Coolermaster NR200P with glass panel

Idle temps are a pretty poor 50 degrees, rising up to 90 degrees when under a full all core load from Cinebench R20. I'd expected high temps considering the cooler is marginal, but with many others seeing comparable results with 280mm AIOs (or similar) and the fact that the heatsink is barely getting warm I'm starting to think it's just something we might need to get used too!

Performance stomps my old Ryzen 2600, but it's below what it should be based on posts here and on reddit. Cinebench R20 scores are at 582 single core, 5364 multi core. CPUz benchmarks give me 645 and 6463 points for single and multi core.

Is there a tool that will produce a nice solid graph of clockspeeds, voltages and temperatures? I'm not sure what to believe right now. I'm at a loss just trying to track clockspeed on it's own; CPUz jumps around between 3GHz and 5GHz faster than I can read the numbers, Task Manager has a mind of it's own, HWMonitor doesn't recognise the CPU and Ryzen Master also jumps around (albeit not as bad as CPUz). This is making it hard to judge what sort of clocks I'm boosting at.

As for thermal paste, I've gone with the central pea-sized blob approach. But will try something different if there's a strong consensus one way or another!
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HWinfo is free and in conjunction with Rivatuner, can do graphs and OSD.
50 at idle does seem excessive, and if you are hitting 90 on CB, its likely thermally throttling.

I can achive around 5500+ cb point multicore with a temp restriction in place can squeak over 6000 with a fixed all core 4.6 @ 1.25v clock.
 
Vogon said:
In my bios I found I can enable a thermal limit below the stock one.
I have set it at 67 (actually will go to 69 according to HWinfo) and doesn't appear to have upset any games or 3DM/Unigene benchmarks, but loses a bit under 500 Cinebench points, clocks boost pretty similarly most of the time, maybe 100mhz less in Warzone.
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congratulations, you have unlocked 5700X
PinkFloyd said:
fact that the heatsink is barely getting warm
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this and 50C idle tell me there is poor contact with heatsink. Reseat it just in case.
Heatsink should get warm after couple minutes of load. And idle temps should be below 40C even with box cooler
 
my 5800x is idling around 31°. this is with a custom loop & dedicated 480mm rad - cinebench at 5750 stock hitting 76° max
 
heres my cinebench, been playing a round for a few days


number 7 is stock, best is 4 with 4.8 oc but was not stable. The 4.7 seemed rock solid.
 
Die location:

AMD-Ryzen-5000-Zen-3-Desktop-CPU_Vermeer_Die-Shot_3-2060x1373.jpg


Take note of the gold triangle in the corner for orientation.

Here is my professional diagram :D

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1072eYT1PxKENH_-74csACndv3kC88xil/view?usp=sharing

Im thinking of getting the Der8auer offset mounting bracket for AM4 to help centre the AIO over the die.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/der8...JKon7TRMbPvGmOgsNcFYNwPB4EIFZMqBoC6-UQAvD_BwE
 
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UK_SPAWN said:
Yes... for science :D apparently

Just ordered my Der8auer mounting bracket from OCUK.

Still waiting for my motherboard though so i cant give any results for another week or so. Will report as soon as i can.
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RIP 5800X. I salute you in the name of science.

Be interesting to hear your results, surprising how far off in the corner the CCD is.
 
Seems to be an inconsistent issue and a lot of people are speculating it to be bios related, so might see more consistency in temps with updates.
 
alec said:
Unusual layout
Which way is the edge with a wider bar on socket? Towards GPU slot?
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If you mean the plastic part that contains the metal arm mechanism, i didnt draw any of that. its simply the CPU. It would be the orientation of any board really, all CPUs go in the same direction.

The left side of my diagram would be the GPU yes. And on most boards where the primary M.2 slot is.

The bottom of the image is where the RAM slots are and the VRMs too the right side, with the rest of the VRM and Rear IO area at the TOP of the image.

More info in Romans' Video:

https://youtu.be/JlJDv68fEcM
 
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Mesai said:
Seems to be an inconsistent issue and a lot of people are speculating it to be bios related, so might see more consistency in temps with updates.
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I disagree, I think its fairly consistent these chips run hot, there are a lot less people with cool running chips that can hit over 5ghz than there are with ;)
I am thinking of returning mine as not fit for purpose, 73 deg under a 360 AIO while playing warzone is not a figure that seems acceptable to me. :(
 
Vogon said:
I disagree, I think its fairly consistent these chips run hot, there are a lot less people with cool running chips that can hit over 5ghz than there are with ;)
I am thinking of returning mine as not fit for purpose, 73 deg under a 360 AIO while playing warzone is not a figure that seems acceptable to me. :(
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Could purely be down to the chip density, in which case you'd be better off with a 5600X or 5900X.

I've seen a couple threads across various sites with a pretty even split. Funnily enough, a lot of the "good thermals" group are using the Corsair H100 AIO so I wonder if the design is better suited to the CPU layout.

Undervolting capability is just around the corner, which could help.
 
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