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Poll: Ryzen 7950X3D, 7900X3D, 7800X3D

Will you be purchasing the 7800X3D on the 6th?

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Rawr said:
For a quick and dirty stress test of CO I can recommend the Aida64 Sha3 test. That thing blue screened instantly for me if a core was unstable from a negative offset despite prime95/ycruncher etc being stable. Just set it to 1 CPU and manually assign the affinity to each core (and its SMT partner). If you want absolute stability you kind of need to test in isolation ideally though. Ie only have the core you're testing with an offset and everything else 0. As one core being unstable can effect stability on another one. It's a quick test, and if it passes a few times you can move on. If they're all stable then you can try the full 16 CPU test on all cores, and it should pass.
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Ok. Thank you. Prime95 has rebooted the system several times already and a core which I thought was stable is now showing errors. I'll try your suggestion with Aida64 and see how we go testing core by core.
 
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Rawr said:
For a quick and dirty stress test of CO I can recommend the Aida64 Sha3 test. That thing blue screened instantly for me if a core was unstable from a negative offset despite prime95/ycruncher etc being stable. Just set it to 1 CPU and manually assign the affinity to each core (and its SMT partner). If you want absolute stability you kind of need to test in isolation ideally though. Ie only have the core you're testing with an offset and everything else 0. As one core being unstable can effect stability on another one. It's a quick test, and if it passes a few times you can move on. If they're all stable then you can try the full 16 CPU test on all cores, and it should pass.
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@01001101 for me Sha3 was the easiest to pass by far. FPU Julia was not too bad, CC with Prime95 and Prime95 small FFT AVX enabled on it's own was a decent starter then OCCT with CC and AVX-2 was OK but what proved the best was Modern warfare 2 and battlefield 5 by checking event ID for WHEA warnings and this took about 2 days to get all the not so good cores pull their ugly head. After all this I let Y-cruncher CC for 10 hours because someone said it was the hardest one for them by far and that passed.
 
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@HappySheep @Rawr Morning. Thanks for the reply.
I don't know if I am testing correctly tbh. For example in Prime95 I had worker 7 fail @ -25. In Prime 95 there are 8 workers in total. 8 workers = 8 cores, right?
In the bios, under curve optimizer it starts at Core 0 and goes to 7. So in my mind I'm thinking worker 7 has to be core 6 in the bios?
I just ran the CPU SHA3 Benchmark - Parameters - Select 1 cpu (is that right?) and pressed start.
I've set all cores set to 0 in the bios and though I would focus on "worker 7/core 6" that failed in Prime95 set to -25.
So far I've ran the AIDA64 SHA3 benchmark test 5 times and there hasn't been an error or BSOD.
I'm just questioning if I have the test environment setup correctly in AIDA64?
Also, does anyone know why in Parameters CPU 5 and 7 aren't there?
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01001101 said:
@HappySheep @Rawr Morning. Thanks for the reply.
I don't know if I am testing correctly tbh. For example in Prime95 I had worker 7 fail @ -25. In Prime 95 there are 8 workers in total. 8 workers = 8 cores, right?
In the bios, under curve optimizer it starts at Core 0 and goes to 7. So in my mind I'm thinking worker 7 has to be core 6 in the bios?
I just ran the CPU SHA3 Benchmark - Parameters - Select 1 cpu (is that right?) and pressed start.
I've set all cores set to 0 in the bios and though I would focus on "worker 7/core 6" that failed in Prime95 set to -25.
So far I've ran the AIDA64 SHA3 benchmark test 5 times and there hasn't been an error or BSOD.
I'm just questioning if I have the test environment setup correctly in AIDA64?
Also, does anyone know why in Parameters CPU 5 and 7 aren't there?
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yes bios its 6 and check event ID for WHEA warnings/errors that will tell you which core/thread too. Watch this guy he explains it pretty well https://youtu.be/dU5qLJqTSAc
 
@HappySheep When setting the curve optimizer in ASUS bios. Do you access it through Ai Tweaker\Precision Boost Overdrive\Curve Optimizer or Advanced\AMD Overclocking\Precision Boost Overdrive\Curve Optimizer?

I thought it was the same thing, but if I make any changes to Advanced\AMD Overclocking\Precision Boost Overdrive\Curve Optimizer it doesn't reflect any changes in this location, Ai Tweaker\Precision Boost Overdrive\Curve Optimizer?

Thanks for the video btw.
 
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01001101 said:
@HappySheep When setting the curve optimizer in ASUS bios. Do you access it through Ai Tweaker\Precision Boost Overdrive\Curve Optimizer or Advanced\AMD Overclocking\Precision Boost Overdrive\Curve Optimizer?

I thought it was the same thing, but if I make any changes to Advanced\AMD Overclocking\Precision Boost Overdrive\Curve Optimizer it doesn't reflect any changes in this location, Ai Tweaker\Precision Boost Overdrive\Curve Optimizer?

Thanks for the video btw.
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No I dont use the advanced tab for CO, whichever one you started to use then stick to that one.
 
delta0 said:
Stock
Aida63 Read 60585 MB/s, latency 84.7 ns
MaxxMem2 51.24 GByte/s, read 49063 MByte/s, write 43719 MByte/s, copy 60951 MByte/s

EXPO
Aida63 Read 78484 MB/s, latency 69.0 ns
MaxxMem2 54.48 GByte/s, read 55874 MByte/s, write 43588 MByte/s, copy 63964 MByte/s

Custom 1
Aida63 Read 84368 MB/s, latency 64.0 ns
MaxxMem2 55.74 GByte/s, read 58569 MByte/s, write 43942 MByte/s, copy 64708 MByte/s

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Try + 1 RCD, +1 RP, RAS 49, RC 86 and retest.
 
01001101 said:
@HappySheep @Rawr Morning. Thanks for the reply.
I don't know if I am testing correctly tbh. For example in Prime95 I had worker 7 fail @ -25. In Prime 95 there are 8 workers in total. 8 workers = 8 cores, right?
In the bios, under curve optimizer it starts at Core 0 and goes to 7. So in my mind I'm thinking worker 7 has to be core 6 in the bios?
I just ran the CPU SHA3 Benchmark - Parameters - Select 1 cpu (is that right?) and pressed start.
I've set all cores set to 0 in the bios and though I would focus on "worker 7/core 6" that failed in Prime95 set to -25.
So far I've ran the AIDA64 SHA3 benchmark test 5 times and there hasn't been an error or BSOD.
I'm just questioning if I have the test environment setup correctly in AIDA64?
Also, does anyone know why in Parameters CPU 5 and 7 aren't there?
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After pressing 1 cpu you need to get up task manager, go to details and then change the affinity of aida 64 to the core you want to test. Ie tick only 0 and 1 for testing the first core, 2 and 3 for core two and so on. Then you can press start.

As for prime95 I think worker 7 should be core 6 yeah. If you want to test prime 95 core by core there is an easier method in using core cycler. It'll do all the affinity swapping for you. It does also support aida64 but it mentioned it wasn't as well worked on so I just manually did it myself.
 
Rawr said:
After pressing 1 cpu you need to get up task manager, go to details and then change the affinity of aida 64 to the core you want to test. Ie tick only 0 and 1 for testing the first core, 2 and 3 for core two and so on. Then you can press start.

As for prime95 I think worker 7 should be core 6 yeah. If you want to test prime 95 core by core there is an easier method in using core cycler. It'll do all the affinity swapping for you. It does also support aida64 but it mentioned it wasn't as well worked on so I just manually did it myself.
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Any ideas why C01 showing in Ryzen Master is doing all the work? I've set AIDA64 to 1 CPU and set the processor affinity to 12, 13 to test Core 7 @ -25?
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01001101 said:
Any ideas why C01 showing in Ryzen Master is doing all the work? I've set AIDA64 to 1 CPU and set the processor affinity to 12, 13 to test Core 7 @ -25?
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Sorry, no idea, can't say I had that issue. Mind you I can't say I use Ryzen Master all that much to be honest.

The only thing I can comment on is you do need to click OK on that affinity pop out before it'll take effect, it's not dynamic like the dropdown used to be in older windows.
 
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facboy said:
i have a newly built (on Sunday) 7950x3d on a Crosshair x670e hero, with 64gb of g.skill 6000mhz ram. the issue i'm having is that it randomly shuts down, about once a day. it just hard cuts out, like you've flipped the power off. it's seemingly random, sometimes it's when idle, other times when i'm gaming. motherboard still has power, as RGB is lit up (and i have a aquacomputer leakshield powered off, which is also still fully operational).
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I think this turned out to be a bum Windows install. I switched from 8700k on a rog max x hero and couldn't be bothered to do a full reinstall of my 6yo OS. Probably old intel drivers, services, aida config, who knows.

Windows reset seems to have sorted it. I'm still at stock for now, but it's been 3 days. Will put on EXPO once this latest agesa bios is out.

Makes you wonder though, the amount of 'hardware' that is fully exposed to the OS and can be brought down (even permanently damaged with eg an overvolt) by rogue misbehaving or even malicious software.
 
Rawr said:
Sorry, no idea, can't say I had that issue. Mind you I can't say I use Ryzen Master all that much to be honest.

The only thing I can comment on is you do need to click OK on that affinity pop out before it'll take effect, it's not dynamic like the dropdown used to be in older windows.
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Yeah. I thought that too, but I ran the test after clicking on ok and I'm getting the same results. Even tried hwinfo and it's showing me core 1 is doing all the work.. I'm stumped. I think I might try asking in r/AMD if anyone has experienced the same thing. I'm sure it's something dumb I'm doing that I've not enabled in the bios. :rolleyes:
 
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This is my first build with an AMD system and I'm really unimpressed. I have built several intel systems over the years and am well versed in hardware for PC's and any troubleshooting that goes with it. This X670E build has been a real pain in the ass. I've had numerous BSOD with memory management fault codes amongst others I can't recall right now. I have X670E Carbon board, 7800x3d, 32gb G Skill Trident Z5 Neo CL30, 2tb 990 Pro, 1tb 980 Pro, RTX 3090. I think the core of the issues lie in the buggy bios. Sometimes the bios even freezes. I have disabled secure boot and TPM and the only options enabled are EXPO for the ram and Enhanced Boost Mode 1 for the CPU. I'll get to the bottom of it in the end but, I've never experienced this level of failures with any of my past intel systems for over 15 years.
 
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chowgar said:
This is my first build with an AMD system and I'm really unimpressed. I have built several intel systems over the years and am well versed in hardware for PC's and any troubleshooting that goes with it. This X670E build has been a real pain in the ass. I've had numerous BSOD with memory management fault codes amongst others I can't recall right now. I have X670E Carbon board, 7800x3d, 32gb G Skill Trident Z5 Neo CL30, 2tb 990 Pro, 1tb 980 Pro, RTX 3090. I think the core of the issues lie in the buggy bios. Sometimes the bios even freezes. I have disabled secure boot and TPM and the only options enabled are EXPO for the ram and Enhanced Boost Mode 1 for the CPU. I'll get to the bottom of it in the end but, I've never experienced this level of failures with any of my past intel systems for over 15 years.
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Stop overclocking your CPU, it might help. Update to latest BIOS, then just enable EXPO save and exit. That might help. No need to enhance boost. :)
 
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