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Poll: Ryzen 7950X3D, 7900X3D, 7800X3D

Will you be purchasing the 7800X3D on the 6th?

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Harshell123 said:
It’s just removing as much as possible so the test is going to show the CPU performance difference. That’s what people are interested in, how much faster the CPU is, not the GPU.
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I know it's showing a cpu difference.

You said what matters is how it performs at the settings people use. 1080p or even 720p at low settings, is that what people are buying £700 cpus for?

The tests force a cpu difference that doesn't matter. That is the farce. At least productivity tests can claim a grasp on reality for the end user.
 
So stating the obvious here but using 1080p benchmarks is just a way to justify the upgrade. No one is buying a top end CPU to play that low resolution. If there's very little difference between them all at 1440p/4k just stick with what you have or one with the best price. Paying hundreds more for plus single digit fps is just silly.

For gamers I'm sure it's better to just get the 7600x and then the 8600x next gen.
 
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Hotwired said:
I know it's showing a cpu difference.

You said what matters is how it performs at the settings people use. 1080p or even 720p at low settings, is that what people are buying £700 cpus for?

The tests force a cpu difference that doesn't matter. That is the farce. At least productivity tests can claim a grasp on reality for the end user.
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That’s not what I said, that’s what you said in your previous post which is why I responded.

I do agree however that these games are cherry picked to show the best case scenario, but that’s true for all.

If you want to see how a CPU performs then you have to test with 720/1080p.
 
Harshell123 said:
That’s not what I said
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True, you are not in fact the person I quoted the first time :p

Harshell123 said:
I do agree however that these games are cherry picked to show the best case scenario, but that’s true for all.

If you want to see how a CPU performs then you have to test with 720/1080p.
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I see it more as forcing the use of games as a cpu benchmark past the point it is useful for the end users.

The only interesting thing about games and cpus at the moment is how throwing cache into the mix improves experience, which might or might not be measured in fps.
 
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Is it just me or do these 1080p arguments flare up every time a new CPU is released. I am sure when the official reviews are released we will se 1080p 1440p and 4k resolutions tested so lets not worry about it now.
 
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Hotwired said:
True, you are not in fact the person I quoted the first time :p



I see it more as forcing the use of games as a cpu benchmark past the point it is useful for the end users.
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To the normal gamer who doesn’t really care other than “will it give me higher fps in all games at 4k” I understand that. But the only way to show how CPU (a) compares to CPU (b) is to test 1080p or 720p.
 
cliffy said:
Is it just me or do these 1080p arguments flare up every time a new CPU is released. I am sure when the official reviews are released we will se 1080p 1440p and 4k resolutions tested so lets not worry about it now.
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Yes, every single time... Like clockwork. Its almost like its a front to peoples sensibilities to do anything other than choke the CPU's performance off so they all look the same.
 
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Maybe its because people with a lack of self control were quite happy to sit on the same CPU for 6 years and not feel the pressure to renew it given little changed from generation to generation.

A new faster CPU does not make your old one worse than it was.

Or is it that these days it only takes 6 months before you no longer have the best chip and people who find it hard not flexing their hardware can't keep up?

Meh.... obsolete. Keep up pleb....

I don't know...
 
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I understand why they run at 1080p with low setting for general CPU testing but the 3D chips are marketed at gamers. I think they should show both side, the low settings test to indicate how well the chip might age and 1080p, 1440p and 4K at high settings to show expected current performance. Think the real benefits of the 3D chip will not be seen for a year or more as the 7x chips are all fast and 99% of games don’t need that much yet.
 
humbug said:
Yes, every single time... Like clockwork. Its almost like its a front to peoples sensibilities to do anything other than choke the CPU's performance off so they all look the same.
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False, I am the one bringing it up and I say a gaming crown requires the crown to have meaningful value.
 
Hotwired said:
False, I am the one bringing it up and I say a gaming crown requires the crown to have meaningful value.
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Its not just you, this comes up a lot and its an argument that been going on for 15 years that i know of.

Could you expand on meaningful value? Having the best performance needs to be relevant beyond it just being a number, i think that's your argument? Why? what does it matter and why even care? Its value is completely subjective, its a thing because people want to know, so just be at peace with it.
 
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humbug said:
Its not just you, this comes up a lot and its an argument that been going on for 15 years that i know of.

Could you expand on meaningful value? Having the best performance needs to be relevant beyond it just being a number, i think that's your argument? Why? what does it matter and why even care? Even if you do its value is completely subjective, its a thing because people want to know, so just be at peace with it.
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There is no argument. It is commentary on how things are.

Official reviews will be up soon and once again, some reviewers will have the decency to be embarrassed about the necessity of using low resolution games to find a difference in modern cpus for gaming no matter what the price of the cpu.
 
FredFlint said:
I understand why they run at 1080p with low setting for general CPU testing but the 3D chips are marketed at gamers. I think they should show both side, the low settings test to indicate how well the chip might age and 1080p, 1440p and 4K at high settings to show expected current performance. Think the real benefits of the 3D chip will not be seen for a year or more as the 7x chips are all fast and 99% of games don’t need that much yet.
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Thats exactly what they will do when the official reviews land on Monday. Thats partly why the 1080p debate is completly pointless because in a little over 36 hours we will have benchmarks from all 3 resolutions
 
Hotwired said:
There is no argument. It is commentary on how things are.

Official reviews will be up soon and once again, some reviewers will have the decency to be embarrassed about the necessity of using low resolution games to find a difference in modern cpus for gaming no matter what the price of the cpu.
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I get that 1080p is not of interest to you but you do realise it is still teh most popular resolution out there, at least according to the Steam survery dated January 2023
 
cliffy said:
I get that 1080p is not of interest to you but you do realise it is still teh most popular resolution out there, at least according to the Steam survery dated January 2023
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No you don't get it. I have said nothing for or against any resolution.

We're going to see the same running joke repeated of gpu choked higher resolutions and down at the low resolutions with fps over 300 really far from any cutting edge gaming experience the brand new best gaming cpu will be crowned.

And the crowd goes mild.
 
Hotwired said:
I know it's showing a cpu difference.

You said what matters is how it performs at the settings people use. 1080p or even 720p at low settings, is that what people are buying £700 cpus for?

The tests force a cpu difference that doesn't matter. That is the farce. At least productivity tests can claim a grasp on reality for the end user.
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How are you missing the boat so badly here guy
 
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