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Ryzen ClockTuner

kitfit1 said:
That's because you, along with most of the forum on here just don't understand how Ryzen works.
If you are only interested in clocking via Ryzen master and by CTR, then you have to accept that you really have little to no control over bios settings from that point onwards. Most changes you make in the bios will be over ridden by Ryzen master and CTR as soon as you are booted to Windows.
The most important decision peeps should make is, do i want to clock by the bios or Ryzen master. The reality is it has to be one or the other......................you simply can't mix both together and expect the best result.
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Where did I say I mix both? I said I have tried all of them and none of them give desirable results

All result in weaker single core performance which hurts gaming performance
 
B1gdeano said:
Where did I say I mix both? I said I have tried all of them and none of them give desirable results

All result in weaker single core performance which hurts gaming performance
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B1gdeano said:
Where did I say I mix both? I said I have tried all of them and none of them give desirable results

All result in weaker single core performance which hurts gaming performance
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Let me ask you then, did you uninstall Ryzen Master before you re-flashed your Bios ?
 
Ryzen master wasnt installed when I was OC using the Bios

Have you actually managed to pull of an OC that results in better single core performance and an increase in FPS for gaming/3dmark?

I have never seen anyone boast of that - lots of nice Cinebench numbers etc which are easy to OC to, but never actual FPS improvements, and in my experience a degradation of them from stock.
 
B1gdeano said:
Ryzen master wasnt installed when I was OC using the Bios

Have you actually managed to pull of an OC that results in better single core performance and an increase in FPS for gaming/3dmark?

I have never seen anyone boast of that - lots of nice Cinebench numbers etc which are easy to OC to, but never actual FPS improvements, and in my experience a degradation of them from stock.
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I havn't actually "boasted" of anything. What i am trying to tell you is that to get the best out of Ryzen and full control of it is to avoid Ryzen Master in the first place...........................it's not rocket science.
 
kitfit1 said:
I havn't actually "boasted" of anything. What i am trying to tell you is that to get the best out of Ryzen and full control of it is to avoid Ryzen Master in the first place...........................it's not rocket science.
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Didnt say you were boasting - I said I have never seen anyone boast of improving game performance on Ryzen via OC

If you have managed to pull of improving single core perf and actually registering a real gain in FPS then I would be interested to know how you managed it?
 
B1gdeano said:
Just unclick the option to load the profile at boot and then reboot the computer

The OC is only valid until the computer reboots as its not done in the bios
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Thanks thought so just wanted to make sure, I've removed it along with Ryzen Master and the SDK. I just want the BIOS to do its thing as gaming performance is my priority
 
I get best performance by turning PBO off and running a fixed voltage. Temps are lower, fans are on silent and gaming fps is at it's highest and the cinebench scores are still decent (not that it seems to batter based on CTR results).
 
KungFuSpaghetti said:
I get best performance by turning PBO off and running a fixed voltage. Temps are lower, fans are on silent and gaming fps is at it's highest and the cinebench scores are still decent (not that it seems to batter based on CTR results).
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What voltage do you use?

I have tried turning PBO off before also but without a fixed voltage - never got a decent result with the usual lower fps
 
B1gdeano said:
What voltage do you use?

I have tried turning PBO off before also but without a fixed voltage - never got a decent result with the usual lower fps
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I run 1.28175v fixed voltage, pbo disabled and that's pretty much it. I have the other bios changes as per the 1usmus universal power plan changes needed and everything else stock.

Uses 124w on cinebench run where it gets over 7600, but more importantly game fps is FAR better than CTR. Temps stay in the 40-50's gaming.
 
KungFuSpaghetti said:
I run 1.28175v fixed voltage, pbo disabled and that's pretty much it. I have the other bios changes as per the 1usmus universal power plan changes needed and everything else stock.

Uses 124w on cinebench run where it gets over 7600, but more importantly game fps is FAR better than CTR. Temps stay in the 40-50's gaming.
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I will have a go and see what happens. If it does improve FPS then that will be a winner.
 
Well I had a quick go and it didnt seem to do anything for me - slightly slower FPS benchmark in timespy but within margin for error

Going to reset CMOS again later and start from scratch to see if I can get any improvement, otherwise just leave it alone lol
 
B1gdeano said:
Well I had a quick go and it didnt seem to do anything for me - slightly slower FPS benchmark in timespy but within margin for error

Going to reset CMOS again later and start from scratch to see if I can get any improvement, otherwise just leave it alone lol
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I only run fixed voltage due to the fact if I dont my motherboard despite having PBO disabled seems to want to put 142w into the chip for no apparent reason and it kills performance lol.
 
I just reset everything again and left it alone now - anything I do just seems to make real world performance worse - I can get synth benches like R20 to get some good numbers but 3Dmark suffers, and as I use it for gaming and not productivity I would rather get FPS than synth scores

That being said I have just managed to improve things by activating the Windows Ultimate power setting - going to leave it on that from now on
 
B1gdeano said:
I just reset everything again and left it alone now - anything I do just seems to make real world performance worse - I can get synth benches like R20 to get some good numbers but 3Dmark suffers, and as I use it for gaming and not productivity I would rather get FPS than synth scores

That being said I have just managed to improve things by activating the Windows Ultimate power setting - going to leave it on that from now on
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Fair enough not wanting to mess with the CPU but I would recommend giving 'Ryzen DRAM Calculator', made by the same guy, a go.
Download 'Thaiphoon', export a report, pull it into RDC, set a couple of boxes for mobo, ram type etc, hit 'calculate safe', put the numbers in BIOS.
Give me a nudge if you want more in-depth instructions but there's plenty of info on it available.

You only really need to worry about the main page if it looks like too much faff to do the rest.

I got a big uplift in mem perf from doing that over having XMP set, same mem speed but tighter timings at lower voltage.
 
KungFuSpaghetti said:
I'll give that a shot. Auto voltage and just reduce PPT?
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If you have Ryzen master installed, set PBO to auto/enabled and check the values for PPT, TDC and EDC, on my gigabyte board with a 3900X these values are 142/95/140.
So just manually enter those and then reducing them roughly in ratio should do it.
And then it's just balancing perf against temps your cooling can handle that you are happy with.

HWiNFO doesn't report these limits as such can also be useful as it will show the current usage and percentage of the limit.
 
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